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#2011638 - 01/09/13 10:11 AM Re: finally the answer is emerging final video clip [Re: maduro]  
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Originally Posted by maduro
beligerant is a pretty strong word

first of all I havent practiced in months I am rusty as heck just getting back on my game
I am an organist more than a pianist I played hammond organ in service
for the last 12 years the approaches are completely different
the piano is very precise where on the hammond the sloppiness adds to the performance further my playing is more about chordal melody playing
and so i rely more on chordal playing then scalar passages

now that I am playing more piano I am interested in getting back on my scales
were there mistakes sure there were mistakes but even when I had teachers
slow playing always revealed such weaknesses

moreover I am a gospel player who has spent most of his time in Db and Ab and Eb and Gb then I have in C
professor Austin from Queens borough community college music program
often stated that C was a harder key to play scalar because there were no reference points.

are there holes in my lawn yes

do I get paid to play every week
am I making a living yes I am do i need to grow
yes but I have come all this way with my ability to both read and improvise
and arrange and play both organ and piano and direct choirs and be payed for it enough to not have to work any other job

so if I am beligerant as you say it is because well
there are many teachers who cant do all that I can do.
many can play from the book but cant improvise
and many can improvise but cant read
many can do both but cant arrange
and play by ear.
since my paycheck relies more on the arranging and choir teaching
that is where my focus lies

but here is a sample of what this self taught musician does every sunday
amazing grace improvisation

will I look for a teacher
I am not adverse to it
but right now
my priorities are teaching the choirs and doing nice arrangements.
for service

You miss my point, as well as that of many of the other posters on this topic. It's not about justifying who you are and what you do for a living, etc. It's about the claims you made about this technique, and how that isn't showing in the results you've provided. Plain and simple.

You said if I do A then Z happens. So a challenge was made for you to put that in practice and see if it is true. Others said in order to get to Z, you'd need a teacher to guide you through it. You decided to go on your own to prove your claim. You did A, but Z clearly did not happen. This has nothing to do with what you do for a living, nor is anyone expecting concert pianist results. However, your results fell way short of your claim. That is my point.

edited to add: your claim was in regards to strictly playing scales on the piano, and not improvisation, playing organ, arrangements, or any other number of skills that are perfectly valid in their own right. My criticism therefore is not of anything else you do, but in reference to your claim about scales on the piano.

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#2011659 - 01/09/13 10:59 AM Re: finally the answer is emerging final video clip [Re: Morodiene]  
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good point
so here are the scales
you tell me if you hear an improvement over the first video done on page one

8 scales 8 keys

#2011677 - 01/09/13 11:51 AM Re: is there a european technique difference with hand position [Re: maduro]  
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#2011809 - 01/09/13 04:56 PM Re: finally the answer is emerging final video clip [Re: maduro]  
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Hi maduro,
I very much like your playing, it's full of soul.

Regards - Ernst

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#2011843 - 01/09/13 06:09 PM Re: finally the answer is emerging final video clip [Re: swiss_boy]  
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Originally Posted by swiss_boy
Hi maduro,
I very much like your playing, it's full of soul.

Regards - Ernst

I agree. I like your music way better than I like your technical exercises, personally.

#2011907 - 01/09/13 08:43 PM Re: is there a european technique difference with hand position [Re: maduro]  
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So I signed up for piano lessons at a music school in my neighborhood
they are supposed to be pretty good with the relaxation thing.

so mr beligerant has decided maybe I need some help

thanks everyone

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