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#201003 - 06/13/08 12:07 AM Another Yamaha U1 Vs. U3 thread  
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Hi Piano world! I am an organist wanting to learn piano. For my low budget, I want to purchase a used Yamaha U1 or U3. I don't know which to choose. I found a local dealer that sells both used, and they have many used U1s and U3s in great condition. I love the sight and sound of both. The U1's average about 3 grand, and the U3's average about 3-4 grand. I have seen another thread about U1s Vs. U3s, but it did not help me reach a personal decision. Any advice apriciated. Thanks.

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#201004 - 06/13/08 01:43 AM Re: Another Yamaha U1 Vs. U3 thread  
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Most used U1's and U3's on the market are the grey-market variety.

Among those, inconsistencies are the rule.

Were they new pianos, the decision would be easy: the U3 is vastly superior to the U1.

[I once owned both...]

Among used - especially grey-market - models, this may not necessarily be the same.

Best of luck.

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#201005 - 06/13/08 12:04 PM Re: Another Yamaha U1 Vs. U3 thread  
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How do I know if they are grey market pianos?

#201006 - 06/13/08 01:05 PM Re: Another Yamaha U1 Vs. U3 thread  
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How do I know if they are grey market pianos?
You can go to Yamaha's website and input the serial number: http://www.yamaha.com/pianoserials/index.asp

If the piano was not built specifically for the country you live in then don't buy it, unless you are aware of the consequences such as cracking soundboards and pins blocks, etc...


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#201007 - 06/13/08 02:11 PM Re: Another Yamaha U1 Vs. U3 thread  
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John, the above comment by well-tempered is a common comment that is mostly wrong. You can do a search here on PW for gray market and find a lot of information. The climate in Japan is not different than many places here in the US. So most of these pianos do not fail from climate change. However many if these pianos come from institutions in Japan and may have a lot of wear from use. (This is only what I have read here on PW, I have no experience in this matter.) Anyway, there has been much discussion about the issues. We have had a U1 for 35 years and used it a lot and it has been a very nice, dependable piano.


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#201008 - 06/13/08 06:12 PM Re: Another Yamaha U1 Vs. U3 thread  
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The climate in Japan is not different than many places here in the US. So most of these pianos do not fail from climate change.
While this is true, many 'grey-market' pianos do not actually originate from Japan itself.

They are simply warehoused there by Japanese wholesalers and then shipped from there to unsuspecting buyers around the world, often after coming from other countries such as Korea, Philippines, Indonesia, Taiwan and so on.

For every fine story about these pianos, there are some with somewhat different ending.

It's not all black and white.

Norbert


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#201009 - 06/15/08 02:37 AM Re: Another Yamaha U1 Vs. U3 thread  
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How much are they asking for the used U1? The new one is about 6K. If your budget allows, just buy the new one, less headache. I myself bought a used Yamaha Disklavier MX100II, and regretted!
I was lured by the disklavier, actually I rarely used that feature at all. Note my Disklavier is a US disklavier (I have checked the serial number).

It is very difficult to sell a used piano if later you want to upgrade. Just buy what you want and stick with it.

#201010 - 06/15/08 06:21 AM Re: Another Yamaha U1 Vs. U3 thread  
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I bought a grey market U1 2 years ago. My piano technician and my piano teacher (who both own Steinways) tell me it is a very good piano. So do my piano playing friends.

There are some very nice used pianos available. Just make sure to have a technician look at any that you are considering buying.

Buying used is not only economical, but environmentally responsible.


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