Piano World Home Page Forums Our Most Popular Forums Pianist Corner Is diet underestimated

Maybe you have good genes. Some people are born lucky that way.

I won't ask you what your cholesterol and HDL and LDL and TG levels are , but we know that mammals - mice to rabbits to elephants to whales to, er, humans are born with a cholesterol level of around 3 mmol/l - which don't rise if you stay on a fish and veg and fruit and grains/nuts (and no junk food of any sort) diet throughout your life, e.g. if you live in rural Japan. (Or if you're a wild animal, eating natural wild foods).

But in most countries, your cholesterol level starts rising as soon as you're weaned. The reasons are obvious.

When did I say that it was conclusive? It's not. That's the point.

That's not true. We are just the only creatures that harvest milk. Put a bowl of milk down in front of a cat or dog and watch.

Sugar makes us stupid, Omega 3's protects the mind. This should be common sense by now.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...high-fructose-corn-syrup-health-science/

"Cherbuin says that we still do not fully understand all the factors involved in regulating blood sugar levels. We do know enough to say that poor diet, lack of exercise, and constant stress likely play a leading role in maintaining unhealthily high levels, he says.

"It is this chronic exposure to high glucose levels that is more likely to lead to poorer brain health," he says."

Read more.
http://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20120904/normal-blood-sugar-levels-may-harm-brain

It's not brain sugary!

What the helll? When did "charlie" become DAVE_250?

I play several instruments, so I am a member in a few forums, and this is a universal question.

Keep my identity secret please , I am also in a batman forum

That doesn't answer why your name on this forum just changed from Charlie to Dave during a 2 year break.

No answer for yah. I probably changed it two years ago.

A forum devoted to those in service of a British military officer? Who knew?!

Cheers!

Why would I want to place a bowl of milk in front of a watch?

Of course - it's sort of a no-brainer. Since scarcity has been more common than excess throughout most of human existence, it is no surprise that we have, as a species, evolved to store up calories when we are presented with the opportunity to do so.

I'm not convinced that would be a "predisposition" in the same sense that I meant it when I said I was genetically predisposed to be slender. That individual genetic trait I have is, in fact, something of a counterbalance to the general trend of adding on the pounds.

And if Deborah had her genome sequenced, she might find that her sense about how weight gain works in her family would be verified by some specific genetic data. Or it could turn out that her genome did not especially predispose her towards weight gain, over the usual kind that you describe (at least at the current level of genetic knowledge, which is far from comprehensive). But, absent any further information, there is no reason to assume that her perception is solely attributable to the same type of weight gain that is seen in the general population in the industrialized countries.

Human beings, unlike other species, aren't slaves to our genes. But for some people, it's still harder than for others to stay slim/lose weight. Some people are more attracted to eating than others, just as some people have addictive personalities.

The notion that some slim people can eat anything they want (and lots more than fat people), yet still remain slim, has been comprehensively debunked by numerous controlled studies. Self-reported so-called 'studies' are the source of this myth. How many people are able to spend 24 hours/day in the company of dieticians who can monitor exactly how many calories they are eating? A study I read recently showed that fat people under-report how much they ate by between 50 - 400%, while slim people tend to be more accurate, but still under-report generally. A lot of the 'missing calories' are from mindless snacking (which can be healthy fruit as well as unhealthy cookies, but they are all calories....) while watching TV, in between meals, with coffee breaks, while cooking and nibbling etc; others come from the under-estimation of how much food they are actually eating at mealtimes, or simply not realizing that what they are eating is a lot, lot more than 'one portion'. (BTW, a portion of steak/meat/fish is the size of a pack of cards).

I was a chubby (OK, somewhat fat ) child, because my parents always tried to pile up the children's plates (like most people, I like to blame others for my problems...) with the admonishment that 'children are starving in Africa', therefore I shouldn't waste any food and should clear my plates. (My young mind couldn't grasp that linking one with the other made no sense...). I was hopeless at any sports at school, so turned to music and chess and the theory of relativity instead. My brother ballooned to some 300lb (he died two years ago at the age of 49 from a stroke due to hypertension and undiagnosed diabetes); I was lucky in that I lived my own life and didn't get too fat, because I was (and still am) a hopeless cook but didn't like the taste of fast food, nor of snack products. And what really changed was when I took up hiking, then mountaineering, then discovered that the best way to keep myself fit for the mountains was to run - preferably on hilly ground. But running isn't easy (for myself, or for onlookers pretending not to notice.... ) when you're overweight, so I set out to lose weight - by eating consistently less at the two main meals I have everyday. Breakfast was spared from pruning. The running itself didn't shed any more pounds - even when I was running 60 miles/week when training for the London Marathon (of which I've run four so far), I didn't lose a single pound, partly because I refuelled with orange juice after every run: it was the downsizing of my portion sizes that achieved the weight loss.

In the UK, those in government are so PC and sensitive to the public's 'feelings' that they equate losing weight with exercise rather than eating less (and instead of telling people to stop eating so much, they beat about the bush by saying we should all eat more 'healthily', as if calories from a 'healthy' veggie burger is somehow less fattening than the same calories from an 'unhealthy' Big Mac), yet it's a hopeless endeavor for anyone to achieve any significant weight loss without actually cutting down their food intake (in calorie terms). For instance, to lose one pound of fat, the average person would have to walk or run 35-40 miles. How many obese people can walk one mile? Yet it's very easy to eat the 3500 calories (= 1 lb fat) in one sitting: I've scoffed over 4500 calories in one meal (after running a marathon, or climbing a mountain) numerous times....

And a recent study has shown that the reason why today's children are getting so overweight is not because children are exercising less than they did 30 years ago - in fact the average amount of daily exercise that children do today is about the same as then (despite all those computer games etc) - but simply because they are eating more; much more than they did 30 years ago. Many children under 10 are eating more than adults did 30 years ago. The average daily calorie intake of American adults today is around 3500.....

And a recent study has shown that the reason why today's children are getting so overweight is not because children are exercising less than they did 30 years ago - in fact the average amount of daily exercise that children do today is about the same as then (despite all those computer games etc) - but simply because they are eating more; much more than they did 30 years ago. Many children under 10 are eating more than adults did 30 years ago. The average daily calorie intake of American adults today is around 3500.....

There are many variations to that theme, but that's basically it along with the added insult of fructose.

Soda and fruit drinks in the US are loaded with high fructose corn syrup. Fructose is metabolized differently in the body than sucrose and repeated exposure to fructose can lead to leptin resistance.

Hundreds of years ago a sugar treat was really a treat and didn't impact on the health of a nation. Today we have access to all kinds of 'treats' and they've become a necessity, a staple of our diet. Thirty percent of the US population is obese and we have HFCS to thank.

Getting back to exercise, three of four years ago I joined a gym expressly to lose weight. A friend of mine told me that two things would happen, my weight would stay exactly the same and my legs would get thick. That's exactly what happened.

While we all know that to lose weight we have to consume fewer calories, there is a difference between them - a calorie is not a calorie.

After reading a few books on this and watching countless videos, I have much more empathy for obese folks. No one really wants to be fat ... and knowing what to eat and what to avoid is the key. For me, it was the talk by Gary Taubes, Why We`Are Fat, that opened my eyes. Once I understood what happens at the cellular level, I could easily manage my own diet.

Maybe the edit above will help you understand. At first I assumed you thought you were being humorous but it could be you don't understand how to make a list.

Well, I thought what Dave wrote was "funny"! I laughed!

Just like I thought this was funny. Sad...but funny!
And I wonder what the "NEXT Generation" down the road is going to look like.



Sorry I couldn't resist! . . . TAXI !!!!!!

That's not true. We are just the only creatures that harvest milk. Put a bowl of milk down in front of a cat or dog and watch.



I understood what you meant ... and you understood what I meant.

Most folks would have smiled. You didn't.

Dave, I thought what you wrote was most funny! I smiled. I laughed actually!

Don't worry I think some people just lack humour.
And I just think Batman should look like this ! OH YES I do!
AND BATMAN, if you get this message. CALL ME! . . .

The issue for me is what can I put on my raisin bran other than milk?
(I don't like soy milk) I noticed that in the USA, the obsession with
putting cheese on practically everything! the waitress asked, do I want
cheese on my eggs, french fries, hash browns etc.. cheese obsessed!! LOL!

This guy has an idea that might work for you... (at 25 seconds)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRJ02VB5Evk

Forrest

p.s. I guess from the Hoffman quotes thread my enjoyment of this song puts me squarely in the 'amateur' camp.

1+
And,if Diane's not home, call ME!
I promise to wear a catwoman suit!

wait- I'm sorry, what was this thread about again?