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#1994977 - 12/05/12 11:45 AM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: ando]  
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Originally Posted by ando
Don't know why you started a thread asking for different opinions if you only see one possibility though.


The thread was started to get various opinions and then make a decision on how best to proceed.

Mission accomplished.


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#1994997 - 12/05/12 12:36 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: Roger Ransom]  
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Originally Posted by Roger Ransom
Originally Posted by ando
It's just a matter of physics, Entheo. If you think it through, it's not so hard. I've moved heavier things than your piano with just a few strong men. But if you want to hire a mover, be my guest. Don't know why you started a thread asking for different opinions if you only see one possibility though. I wish you luck with the move though.



+1

My wife and I alone have moved our Yamaha G7 (not light) all over our main floor. We moved it to the kitchen while carpet was installed, moved it to different locations in the living room for various reasons. I'm 70 years old and we recently moved it so we could have a flat screen mounted above it and then moved it back. Not a big deal and we never even considered calling a mover. It's a puzzle to me too.
Your piano is much smaller and you didn't mentioned anything about trying to put a rug underneath the piano which is far different from rolling a piano. On a hardwood floor several people can usually move a piano no problem, but even there disasters can occur (and sometimes occur even in piano showrooms where the people have moved pianos hundreds of times).

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Originally Posted by ando
It's just a matter of physics, Entheo. If you think it through, it's not so hard. I've moved heavier things than your piano with just a few strong men. But if you want to hire a mover, be my guest. Don't know why you started a thread asking for different opinions if you only see one possibility though. I wish you luck with the move though.
Why do you assume he only had one possibility in mind when he started the thread?

#1995082 - 12/05/12 03:57 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Originally Posted by ando
It's just a matter of physics, Entheo. If you think it through, it's not so hard. I've moved heavier things than your piano with just a few strong men. But if you want to hire a mover, be my guest. Don't know why you started a thread asking for different opinions if you only see one possibility though. I wish you luck with the move though.
Why do you assume he only had one possibility in mind when he started the thread?


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#1995100 - 12/05/12 04:39 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: ando]  
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Originally Posted by ando
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Originally Posted by ando
It's just a matter of physics, Entheo. If you think it through, it's not so hard. I've moved heavier things than your piano with just a few strong men. But if you want to hire a mover, be my guest. Don't know why you started a thread asking for different opinions if you only see one possibility though. I wish you luck with the move though.
Why do you assume he only had one possibility in mind when he started the thread?


Helpful as always, PL... wink
Your comment was incorrectly critical of the OP. I already gave my opinion about what I thought was the best way to put the rug under the piano earlier in the thread.

Apparently OP didn't agree with your idea and you found it necessary to insult him for no reason. Your rude and sarcastic comment about him starting a thread but not wanting different opinions was just plain wrong. He got a large variety of opinions and reached a conclusion.

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#1995106 - 12/05/12 04:57 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: Entheo]  
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Entheo, I'm just trying to have you give yourself more credit. As my family will attest, I perpetually play a game of "how do I get off the island?" If you really have to solve a problem, you will. As far as the beer goes, I don't drink, and as I have said, I have done this myself, and I told you how. Admittedly my pianos are a bit heavier, 1200 lbs and 1500lbs respectively, but it is still doable by lifting one leg at a time. In truth it is easier than rolling a piano, even on hardwoods which puts considerable stress on the legs and their attachment points. For what it's worth, I took down a tree about the same size as that in the video a few weeks ago. I notice that he seems to have no guy wires to persuade the tree to go in any particular direction.My plight was that going the other direction would have landed my tree on my neighbor's roof. He's a good neighbor, but as we know THAT has its limitations.

I laud you for asking for advice, but don't give up too quickly, nor sell yourself short!

#1995111 - 12/05/12 05:14 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Originally Posted by Roger Ransom
Originally Posted by ando
It's just a matter of physics, Entheo. If you think it through, it's not so hard. I've moved heavier things than your piano with just a few strong men. But if you want to hire a mover, be my guest. Don't know why you started a thread asking for different opinions if you only see one possibility though. I wish you luck with the move though.



+1

My wife and I alone have moved our Yamaha G7 (not light) all over our main floor. We moved it to the kitchen while carpet was installed, moved it to different locations in the living room for various reasons. I'm 70 years old and we recently moved it so we could have a flat screen mounted above it and then moved it back. Not a big deal and we never even considered calling a mover. It's a puzzle to me too.
Your piano is much smaller and you didn't mentioned anything about trying to put a rug underneath the piano which is far different from rolling a piano. On a hardwood floor several people can usually move a piano no problem, but even there disasters can occur (and sometimes occur even in piano showrooms where the people have moved pianos hundreds of times).


I really don't think my G7 is much smaller than a C7, probably pretty darn close. The G7 is 7' 4". I haven't weighed it.

We moved the piano, had a whole room carpet installed and moved the piano back onto it. It was not a problem, obviously you have to use common sense and care.


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#1995133 - 12/05/12 05:55 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: John Pels]  
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Originally Posted by John Pels
Entheo, I'm just trying to have you give yourself more credit. As my family will attest, I perpetually play a game of "how do I get off the island?" If you really have to solve a problem, you will. As far as the beer goes, I don't drink, and as I have said, I have done this myself, and I told you how. Admittedly my pianos are a bit heavier, 1200 lbs and 1500lbs respectively, but it is still doable by lifting one leg at a time. In truth it is easier than rolling a piano, even on hardwoods which puts considerable stress on the legs and their attachment points. For what it's worth, I took down a tree about the same size as that in the video a few weeks ago. I notice that he seems to have no guy wires to persuade the tree to go in any particular direction.My plight was that going the other direction would have landed my tree on my neighbor's roof. He's a good neighbor, but as we know THAT has its limitations.

I laud you for asking for advice, but don't give up too quickly, nor sell yourself short!


john, i'm not one who gives up easily -- i cycled up two of the hardest climbs in all of professional cycling (alpe d'huez and mont ventoux) last summer. but discretion is the better part of valor.

after moving in we decided that we wanted to move the piano back a few inches. my stepson (a strapping 25 year old) and his friend were called upon to lift each leg so i could remove the caster cups. the tail wasn't so bad, but it took almost all of their strength to get the subsequent legs up and the cups out. that's like 1/2" lifting. sure, rolling it on a hardwood floor is no big deal, but lifting each leg possibly as much as a foot to get the remaining rolled rug under it (while they're standing there, and having to lift their legs as well while lifting the piano for the passage of the rug) seems a good way to use up one's hernia deductible. and there's the little matter of perfectly lining up the rug with the pad, of which there's a 1" tolerance.

so i prefer to solve problems i'm well qualified to. both the rug store and my piano mover, along with many esteemed opinions here (sam et. al.), indicate that the best way to do this is to get the piano out of the room first, lay the pad & rug to my satisfaction, then return the piano on the dolly (it will have to be broken down just like it was being moved to another location) to the new location and set her back up.

the risk (injury to piano and/or people, and/or a rug that's ill-placed and/or out of alignment) just ain't worth the reward (saving under $200).

#1995160 - 12/05/12 07:11 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Originally Posted by ando
Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Originally Posted by ando
It's just a matter of physics, Entheo. If you think it through, it's not so hard. I've moved heavier things than your piano with just a few strong men. But if you want to hire a mover, be my guest. Don't know why you started a thread asking for different opinions if you only see one possibility though. I wish you luck with the move though.
Why do you assume he only had one possibility in mind when he started the thread?


Helpful as always, PL... wink
Your comment was incorrectly critical of the OP. I already gave my opinion about what I thought was the best way to put the rug under the piano earlier in the thread.

Apparently OP didn't agree with your idea and you found it necessary to insult him for no reason. Your rude and sarcastic comment about him starting a thread but not wanting different opinions was just plain wrong. He got a large variety of opinions and reached a conclusion.


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#1997414 - 12/10/12 04:44 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: Entheo]  
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#1997423 - 12/10/12 05:09 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: Entheo]  
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ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!


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#1997550 - 12/10/12 08:46 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: Entheo]  
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What a piano! This reminds me of when I removed the rug under mine by myself...much harder than it sounds! On one knee I wedged my shoulder under the corner and lifted each side up, pulling the rug out from underneath the legs inch by inch. I would never attempt it again.


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#1997586 - 12/10/12 09:53 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: Entheo]  
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Look what the cat did!... the cat is very proud, and rightfully so. The room looks great.

How has the rug effected the sound?


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#1997633 - 12/10/12 11:51 PM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: Dave B]  
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Originally Posted by Dave B
Look what the cat did!... the cat is very proud, and rightfully so. The room looks great.

How has the rug effected the sound?


thanks for the compliments.

the rug definitely dampens down the room, much dryer sound now, which is both good (not clangy or brassy sounding anymore) and bad (i can no longer hide poor technique with room reverb, altho i can compensate by overpedaling :-)

#2236615 - 02/24/14 01:50 AM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: Entheo]  
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I am looking for more information about putting a rug under my piano and found this old thread. Just wondering, does it make any difference if I buy a rug to put under the piano (but not big enough to be under the Caster cups) vs. a bigger rug that would be under all the 3 legs?

thanks!


#2236671 - 02/24/14 08:42 AM Re: best way to put a rug under a piano... [Re: Entheo]  
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The sound absorption will increase as the rug gets larger. One thing that many people forget is to have the rug large enough to easily accommodate the bench area. It gets awkward if the bench ends up half-way on the rug.


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Love the trap set too.
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