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#1995883 - 12/07/12 11:18 AM which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer act  
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I use a casio px 130 before, not very good, the touch is not sensitive. I use different technique , but produce the similar sound.


I want to have a one which represent the hammer action more realistic , and the weight. For other features, like ivory, wood key, such fancy thing, I don't care.

I have heard that roland hp500series and yamaha clp series are good, but the roland have the reliability issure, is that true?

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#1995887 - 12/07/12 11:23 AM Re: which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer act [Re: music_piano]  
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Originally Posted by music_piano
but the roland have the reliability issure, is that true?


Not really. They all have had their share of problems. None really more than the others. Roland's main problem was the early ivory surface they used was not durable. They seem to have fixed that now in new models.

#1995895 - 12/07/12 11:44 AM Re: which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer act [Re: music_piano]  
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Originally Posted by music_piano
I use a casio px 130 before, not very good, the touch is not sensitive. I use different technique , but produce the similar sound.

This is not correct.

The PX130 *does* have a hammer keyboard with touch (velocity) sensitivity.

Maybe you have turned the touch response function off? Or the unit is defective.

#1995900 - 12/07/12 11:51 AM Re: which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer act [Re: spanishbuddha]  
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it has touch sensitive level, but no difference when I set to different level, at least , I can't hear any difference

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#1995901 - 12/07/12 11:54 AM Re: which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer act [Re: spanishbuddha]  
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Originally Posted by spanishbuddha
Originally Posted by music_piano
I use a casio px 130 before, not very good, the touch is not sensitive. I use different technique , but produce the similar sound.

This is not correct.

The PX130 *does* have a hammer keyboard with touch (velocity) sensitivity.

Maybe you have turned the touch response function off? Or the unit is defective.



it has touch sensitive level, but no difference when I set to different level, at least , I can't hear any difference

#1995916 - 12/07/12 12:30 PM Re: which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer act [Re: music_piano]  
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When you play a piano voice softly, do you get a quiet low sound?
When you play a piano voice hard or harshly, do you get a loud strong sound?
If yes, the touch response is working.

The touch response sensitivity settings allows you to produce a louder sound with a softer or slower press of the key, and vice versa. This can be subtle on many DP's. Is this what you are saying is not working?
If so, it Could be defective but unlikely.

Since the PX130 is fine in this regard for most people, it's no good asking here for recommendations. Instead take a pair of headphones and head to the stores to try some different DP's out. Some Rolands have something like 100 variations in the sensitivity, FP7F for example AFAIR.

Better IMHO is to learn and practise technique. wink

#1995919 - 12/07/12 12:37 PM Re: which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer act [Re: music_piano]  
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Originally Posted by music_piano
it has touch sensitive level, but no difference when I set to different level, at least , I can't hear any difference
That does sound like the settings were set wrong. While not a high-end instrument, it is certainly very dynamic and responds to even basic technique. It's triple sensors are one area where it truly excels.

The newer Casio PX-150/350 would represent a significant improvement to the action, comparable to pianos $1000+ range from other makers. I personally think it is superior to almost all until you get to ~$2000 range.

Now if you move to the heavier consoles, you will encounter added advantages that come with the actions that physically weigh more. That's not the weight of the "feel" but that more inertia in the mechanism tends to allow better simulation of a real action.


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#1995934 - 12/07/12 01:09 PM Re: which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer act [Re: spanishbuddha]  
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Thanks . Yes. I know that already. The problem is I need to extremely slow to get the quiet sound ,and extremely quick to get the loud sound. Even I set the sensitivity setting, I still need to try hard to get the different dynamics.

Originally Posted by spanishbuddha
When you play a piano voice softly, do you get a quiet low sound?
When you play a piano voice hard or harshly, do you get a loud strong sound?
If yes, the touch response is working.

The touch response sensitivity settings allows you to produce a louder sound with a softer or slower press of the key, and vice versa. This can be subtle on many DP's. Is this what you are saying is not working?
If so, it Could be defective but unlikely.

Since the PX130 is fine in this regard for most people, it's no good asking here for recommendations. Instead take a pair of headphones and head to the stores to try some different DP's out. Some Rolands have something like 100 variations in the sensitivity, FP7F for example AFAIR.

Better IMHO is to learn and practise technique. wink

#1995937 - 12/07/12 01:12 PM Re: which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer act [Re: PianoWorksATL]  
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Originally Posted by PianoWorksATL
Originally Posted by music_piano
it has touch sensitive level, but no difference when I set to different level, at least , I can't hear any difference
That does sound like the settings were set wrong. While not a high-end instrument, it is certainly very dynamic and responds to even basic technique. It's triple sensors are one area where it truly excels.


+1 I have a PX-135 (it's almost identical to 130 except for the addition of two more piano variations) and it's very sensitive and responsive, and the action is quite good. I know there are better digital instruments out there (of course) but for sure not at that price and weight (I'm willing to try the new Px-150 soon, still didn't...). The most critizable feature of the 130/135 is, in my opinion, the piano tone, it's ok but not too much brilliant in my opinion. But it is a lot sensitive.

#1995955 - 12/07/12 01:46 PM Re: which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer act [Re: CarloPiano]  
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do you think my px 130 has defect. I just sell it because I am moving . I plan to buy a new one. just confuse which one I should buy.
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Originally Posted by music_piano
it has touch sensitive level, but no difference when I set to different level, at least , I can't hear any difference
That does sound like the settings were set wrong. While not a high-end instrument, it is certainly very dynamic and responds to even basic technique. It's triple sensors are one area where it truly excels.


+1 I have a PX-135 (it's almost identical to 130 except for the addition of two more piano variations) and it's very sensitive and responsive, and the action is quite good. I know there are better digital instruments out there (of course) but for sure not at that price and weight (I'm willing to try the new Px-150 soon, still didn't...). The most critizable feature of the 130/135 is, in my opinion, the piano tone, it's ok but not too much brilliant in my opinion. But it is a lot sensitive.

#1995961 - 12/07/12 01:56 PM Re: which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer act [Re: music_piano]  
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Originally Posted by music_piano
do you think my px 130 has defect. I just sell it because I am moving . I plan to buy a new one. just confuse which one I should buy.


Try Touch Response settings. By default it's set to 2.


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