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#1992477 - 11/29/12 04:46 PM The great piano scam  
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Just came across this on youtube. Never heard of it before and found it fascination. Joyce Hatto.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSaGMaA3eA4


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#1992480 - 11/29/12 04:51 PM Re: The great piano scam [Re: Ralph]  
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There was considerable discussion of this in the Pianist Corner back in 2007.

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Hatto Hoax

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#1992487 - 11/29/12 05:11 PM Re: The great piano scam [Re: Ralph]  
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Nice find! But it's hard to believe that the experts don't recognise such copies... or is that video itself a hoax laugh


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#1992489 - 11/29/12 05:13 PM Re: The great piano scam [Re: Ralph]  
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There was an article in the New Yorker as I recall.



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#1992491 - 11/29/12 05:22 PM Re: The great piano scam [Re: Ralph]  
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I must have missed it the first time around on PW.


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#1992521 - 11/29/12 06:47 PM Re: The great piano scam [Re: Ralph]  
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I watched something about this awhile ago (maybe even this video) and though I was a little familiar with the story, didn't realize she released several recordings with fictitious orchestras. How did that avoid being noticed immediately?

#1992523 - 11/29/12 06:50 PM Re: The great piano scam [Re: Damon]  
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Here is one of the artists she ripped off.


#1992594 - 11/29/12 10:00 PM Re: The great piano scam [Re: BruceD]  
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Originally Posted by BruceD
There was considerable discussion of this in the Pianist Corner back in 2007.

For example :

Hatto Hoax



And Hatto Redux

#1992596 - 11/29/12 10:03 PM Re: The great piano scam [Re: wouter79]  
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Originally Posted by wouter79
Nice find! But it's hard to believe that the experts don't recognise such copies... or is that video itself a hoax laugh


Hamelin didn't recognize his own recording of some of the ChopGods when they turned up in the Hatto version. Granted, they were tweaked a little, but still, you'd think something would sound a bit familiar.


#1996708 - 12/09/12 03:14 AM Re: The great piano scam [Re: Ralph]  
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I think people on the whole just want to believe a story like that could be true. I mean it's tragic, with its own form of romance.

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Here's the entire New Yorker magazine article from 2007.



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#1996749 - 12/09/12 06:30 AM Re: The great piano scam [Re: Ralph]  
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For those in the UK there's a dramadoc being shown by the Beeb on the 27th. I guess it shows the level of interest in this still. Here's a trailer....

Loving Miss Hatto

#1996810 - 12/09/12 09:54 AM Re: The great piano scam [Re: Ralph]  
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Those old Hatto threads here at PW were quite good.

#1996819 - 12/09/12 10:12 AM Re: The great piano scam [Re: EJR]  
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Originally Posted by EJR
For those in the UK there's a dramadoc being shown by the Beeb on the 27th. I guess it shows the level of interest in this still. Here's a trailer....

Loving Miss Hatto


Thanks for posting this. I fortunately receive BBC1 (and BBC2) here in Holland.



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#1996856 - 12/09/12 11:38 AM Re: The great piano scam [Re: wr]  
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Originally Posted by wr

Hamelin didn't recognize his own recording of some of the ChopGods when they turned up in the Hatto version. Granted, they were tweaked a little, but still, you'd think something would sound a bit familiar.


Yea, this is the weirdest thing, when I listen to another recording of something I've played, if they play it the "same way" I would take notice. That's pretty impressive modification.

I think if they are really "original" in some way, then I think they can be appreciated in their own way, with some caveats of course lol.

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