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#1983672 - 11/07/12 05:46 AM Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind  
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Always somewhere about the glo...
Performance times vary and all are slower than "professional" but solid enough to convey brilliance. Chopin "loses it" at a couple of points and maybe re-presented at some point.

Liszt No2 of 12 progressive etudes
https://www.box.com/s/6i57kmr092q702y15o5z

Liszt No10 of 12 transcendental etudes
https://www.box.com/s/6sdv5j5r1zuivhv840ca

Chopin "winter wind" etude Op25 No11
https://www.box.com/s/5z6ppdw8rqzgxa9czlg0


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#1984735 - 11/09/12 06:05 PM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: BachMach2]  
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Originally Posted by BachMach2
Performance times vary and all are slower than "professional" but solid enough to convey brilliance. Chopin "loses it" at a couple of points and maybe re-presented at some point.

Liszt No2 of 12 progressive etudes
https://www.box.com/s/6i57kmr092q702y15o5z

Liszt No10 of 12 transcendental etudes
https://www.box.com/s/6sdv5j5r1zuivhv840ca

Chopin "winter wind" etude Op25 No11
https://www.box.com/s/5z6ppdw8rqzgxa9czlg0

Seems like you may have a little too much time on your hands, BachMach...... grin


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#1985141 - 11/10/12 08:00 PM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: Carey]  
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Originally Posted by carey
Originally Posted by BachMach2
Performance times vary and all are slower than "professional" but solid enough to convey brilliance. Chopin "loses it" at a couple of points and maybe re-presented at some point.

Liszt No2 of 12 progressive etudes
https://www.box.com/s/6i57kmr092q702y15o5z

Liszt No10 of 12 transcendental etudes
https://www.box.com/s/6sdv5j5r1zuivhv840ca

Chopin "winter wind" etude Op25 No11
https://www.box.com/s/5z6ppdw8rqzgxa9czlg0

Seems like you may have a little too much time on your hands, BachMach...... grin

If he had a little too much time on his hands then the recordings wouldn't be this dire

#1985388 - 11/11/12 02:22 PM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: BachMach2]  
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Are you sure you want to play these?

I'm not trying to discourage at all, but... don't you think this monsters of Études are too hards for your technique?

Wouldn't you like to play other easier Études?

If you really like Chopin you could try to play some of his Préludes or, if you want to learn the Études, you could study the Op 10 number 3 or number 6, but he op 25 number 11 is too hard to begin with.

Encouragement and keep working hard as I guess you are doing!! smile

#1986107 - 11/13/12 11:21 AM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: BachMach2]  
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I've seen you post recordings before, but never listened. This time, I decided to jump in. However, I only listened to Liszt 10/12 for now. Couple ideas:

1. Move the mic farther from the piano, and/or reduce the sensitivity so it records what you are playing better.

2. Are you aware that you play the etude at roughly half-speed?

I think that you made a solid effort to play each note correctly. However, if that is as fast and even as you can play it, these etudes might not be the best starting point for you. It is too slow and choppy to convey musical understanding. Certain choices you did make indicate that you may have this ability, even though it did not emanate from this particular performance, so I would encourage you to post performances of pieces you feel you can play flawlessly, and I think you may receive different feedback.

As an aside, I would not post a genuine recording of some of the most difficult piano repertoire, say "it's a little slow" (which is an understatement), and then say "it's still a brilliant performance". This actually detracts from your ability, rather than enhances it.

I hope this was helpful. smile


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#1986116 - 11/13/12 11:33 AM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: Derulux]  
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Originally Posted by Derulux
I've seen you post recordings before, but never listened. [...]


Perhaps you should listen!

Regards,


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#1986175 - 11/13/12 01:13 PM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: BruceD]  
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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Derulux
I've seen you post recordings before, but never listened. [...]


Perhaps you should listen!

Regards,

The question is, to what, exactly? wink


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#1986178 - 11/13/12 01:18 PM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: Derulux]  
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Originally Posted by Derulux
Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Derulux
I've seen you post recordings before, but never listened. [...]


Perhaps you should listen!

Regards,

The question is, to what, exactly? wink


... to the poster's comments, technique (?) and interpretations (?) which should show that any advice, recommendations, suggestions or comments from others fall on totally deaf ears and are, for us, a total waste of time.

Ah! Deaf ears! That may be the clue to the whole enigma ....

Regards,


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#1986214 - 11/13/12 02:38 PM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: BruceD]  
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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Derulux
Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Derulux
I've seen you post recordings before, but never listened. [...]


Perhaps you should listen!

Regards,

The question is, to what, exactly? wink


... to the poster's comments, technique (?) and interpretations (?) which should show that any advice, recommendations, suggestions or comments from others fall on totally deaf ears and are, for us, a total waste of time.

Ah! Deaf ears! That may be the clue to the whole enigma ....

Regards,

Aye, there's the rub! laugh


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#1986243 - 11/13/12 03:51 PM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: BachMach2]  
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I'm surprised this poster hasn't been banned yet. Maybe Kreisler won't do it until he ruins the Brahms Handel Variations.

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#1986276 - 11/13/12 05:28 PM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: Ian_G]  
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Originally Posted by Ian_G
I'm surprised this poster hasn't been banned yet. Maybe Kreisler won't do it until he ruins the Brahms Handel Variations.
He's just joking around.

#1986556 - 11/14/12 09:00 AM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: BachMach2]  
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I, for one, rather enjoy BachMach2's posts...

#1986596 - 11/14/12 11:07 AM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: Ian_G]  
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Originally Posted by Ian_G
....until he ruins the Brahms Handel Variations.

You've probably inspired him to get right to it. ha

#1986831 - 11/14/12 10:03 PM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: BachMach2]  
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The Winter Wind recording is reminiscent of Hoffman!

#1986940 - 11/15/12 02:36 AM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: BruceD]  
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Originally Posted by BruceD
Ah! Deaf ears! That may be the clue to the whole enigma ....

Regards,


Hah!


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#1988025 - 11/18/12 03:11 AM Re: Liszt Progr Et 2, Trans Et 10, Chopin Winter Wind [Re: BachMach2]  
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Particularly brilliant performance of the Winter Wind etude! laugh laugh


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