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#1980276 - 10/29/12 08:56 PM Color of Plate felt, re-build  
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OK seems like everybody uses Red Felt for under strings etc.
I'm thinking of using black or dark blue on this 1912 5'3" Kimball grand.
Has anybody tried other colors than red?
Will I regret it?



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#1980279 - 10/29/12 09:04 PM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: woodfab]  
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The felt color has no effect on the performance. Just do your homework well and use the correct felt types in the correct places.

However, there is a school of thought of "Let a Steinway be a Steinway, a Yamaha be a Yamaha, A Kimball be a Kimball, etc." Edit: If you subscribe to this school, them of course you will want to keep the original color.

Then, there are those who will make major modifications far exceeding merely changing the color of the plate felt.

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#1980282 - 10/29/12 09:05 PM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: woodfab]  
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You might. Most factories use red felt because it improves the tone of their pianos. Bluthner uses blue felt, and that's why their pianos sound so bloody awful.

#1980297 - 10/29/12 09:45 PM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: woodfab]  
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Everyone uses red because that's just about all that you can get from the regular suppliers. If you know where to look, you can get green, blue, burgundy, black brown and even purple piano felt.

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#1980305 - 10/29/12 09:57 PM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: beethoven986]  
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Do you really think color effects tone/sound?


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#1980309 - 10/29/12 09:59 PM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: Supply]  
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Originally Posted by Supply
If you know where to look, you can get green, blue, burgundy, black brown and even purple piano felt.


Not carrying yellow anymore?

#1980310 - 10/29/12 10:00 PM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: woodfab]  
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Originally Posted by woodfab
Do you really think color effects tone/sound?


It's more fun for me if I don't answer this question.

#1980321 - 10/29/12 10:22 PM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: woodfab]  
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Red is better if you play mostly romantic era repertoire, but I would use blue if you think you will play mostly Jazz. Green might be best if you are into folk, or New Age. If you like to drink a lot while you play go for the burgundy.


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#1980329 - 10/29/12 10:29 PM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: woodfab]  
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Sun of a beach!
My monkey says to use purple ]....


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#1980421 - 10/30/12 06:37 AM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: woodfab]  
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[Linked Image] This one was obviously restrung using blues felt.


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#1980425 - 10/30/12 07:26 AM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: woodfab]  
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Originally Posted by woodfab
OK seems like everybody uses Red Felt for under strings etc.
I'm thinking of using black or dark blue on this 1912 5'3" Kimball grand.
Has anybody tried other colors than red?
Will I regret it?



I have tried other colors of felt and plate.

No regrets.


"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
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#1980433 - 10/30/12 08:08 AM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: woodfab]  
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Your only worry is picking a color that might put a customer off.
Small thing are sometimes weighed far beyond their meaning.
Just like in plates, I would say that black is right out.
It shows every mote of dust, and is impossible to keep clean.
In addition, though I can't say about modern dyes, historicly, black dyes have been very corrosive. I wouldn't trust them in contact with the wire.


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#1980473 - 10/30/12 10:24 AM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: woodfab]  
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Green felt always sounds the best. Why don't they use it for hammers?


"Imagine it in all its primatic colorings, its counterpart in our souls - our souls that are great pianos whose strings, of honey and of steel, the divisions of the rainbow set twanging, loosing on the air great novels of adventure!" - William Carlos Williams
#1980621 - 10/30/12 04:49 PM Re: Color of Plate felt, re-build [Re: beethoven986]  
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Originally Posted by beethoven986
You might. Most factories use red felt because it improves the tone of their pianos. Bluthner uses blue felt, and that's why their pianos sound so bloody awful.

I am so glad that my antique Bluthner has red felt. I always did wonder what its secret was!


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