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#1978262 - 10/24/12 11:03 PM Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench  
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I have seen several piano benches that are higher in the back and slope forward. Supposedly they help with back trouble. They are called ergonomic benches I think. Has anyone tried any of these? If so, how do they compare to regular artist benches? Do they help? Do you feel like you are sliding downhill? Which brand or model do you have?

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#1978272 - 10/24/12 11:39 PM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Chopinlover49]  
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Take a normal bench, slightly prop up the rear legs. Done smile

#1978286 - 10/25/12 12:32 AM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Chopinlover49]  
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I practice that way almost all the time. It helps keep my posture correct. Here's what I do.

I have a regular bench with a music compartment. The hinges face toward the piano. I open the lid and put a length of a 2x4 between the lid (seat) and the frame. This is more convenient than under the legs (which I tried at first), since I can move the bench around as usual. It's also more stable.

The benches or chairs I've seen with sloped seats don't seem like they have as much of a slope as this arrangement.


David M. Boothe, CAS
#1978290 - 10/25/12 12:50 AM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Chopinlover49]  
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I have 2 of these, they are that good, and I suspect a lot less expensive. wink

http://www.backstore.com/backstore/TushCar.htm

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#1978308 - 10/25/12 01:53 AM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Grandpianoman]  
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Tried to prop up the rear legs and ergo cushion methods. Because both are noy quite practical I considered buying one of these special ergonomic benches with a sloped seat thar are commercially available:

The ergonomic piano bench 'D. Habermann' made by 'Lanzani, Italy'. When trying to order they let me know it was no longer available as the owner, Mr. Lanzani, died a few weeks ago:

Habermann

Lanzani

Other brands/models:
Burghardt B 2001

Andexinger alpha/beta/gamma & 484 ergo

Finally I did not buy either of all these but am awaiting delivery within the next two weeks of a very special one - 'the MiShu bench' that is even not available from piano stores but directly from the manufacturer in Germany:

MiShu

For those who understand German, there is a nice video demonstrating the principle the chair is based on:

MiShu demonstration

schwamerl.

#1978378 - 10/25/12 07:25 AM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Chopinlover49]  
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While I admit that ergonomically, a bench that is sloped slightly forward may be appealing, I would also caution that there is no substitute for good technique at the piano. If you are considering a bench like this because of discomfort or pain I think a good teacher, perhaps one versed in the Taubman Approach, or a similar technique would be most useful.

My 2 cents,


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#1978397 - 10/25/12 08:47 AM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Chopinlover49]  
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Thanks, everyone. Rich: I am not considering buying one, but thought that I might simulate the experience with a pillow similar to Grandpianoman's post if the angle seems to help people. I am looking forward to my new Mason-Hamlin bench that you are sending me.

#2660272 - 07/10/17 10:50 AM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Chopinlover49]  
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Sorry to revive an old thread but I tried one of these ergonomic benches over the weekend and loved it. For fifty something dollars I might try the Tush Cush first. It's easy to say that one should have good technique. I strive to maintain good posture at the piano, but eventually the back gets tired. And If I've been diddling on the computer (like now) it gets tired faster. The sloping bench shifts the angle of the pelvis making good posture easier and almost unavoidable. What I haven't experienced is playing on one of these for an extended period. Does anyone have experience with that?

#2660322 - 07/10/17 02:32 PM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Chopinlover49]  
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Similar to riding a horse and a good thing too!

#2660347 - 07/10/17 04:04 PM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Chopinlover49]  
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I've been using a piece of 1x2 between the lid and frame of my bench for years. That works fine.


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#2660366 - 07/10/17 05:28 PM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Chopinlover49]  
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These chairs and cushions are very common in the cello world. Tried two different cushions but wound up happiest with propping back legs, bench or chair, up with a 2x4. When my wonky C6 is acting up I also use a foam bar under the book on the rack so that the middle of the page is at eye level which helps me keep my neck straight. Now I just need such an easy solution to my wonky left wrist.

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#2660388 - 07/10/17 07:01 PM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Chopinlover49]  
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I tried lifting the back end of my bench up a little with wood wedge and I did like it but found myself sliding down over time. Wasn't inclined much but found myself having to skooch up every so often.




#2660403 - 07/10/17 07:39 PM Re: Has anyone tried the Italian ergonomic sloping piano bench [Re: Chopinlover49]  
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I tried one during a master piano class at Bösendorfer in Vienna. It was nice, but I didn't feel compelled to own one. I have a Jensen artist bench I love though.

Steve
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