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#1975465 - 10/18/12 11:40 PM Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition
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I know the Franz Kroll, Peters edition of The Well Tempered Clavier is out of print. Does anyone know where I could get used copies?

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#1975496 - 10/19/12 02:04 AM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Marie1]
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#1975608 - 10/19/12 10:01 AM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Marie1]
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I think any second hand bookstore that specializes in music. Perhaps Dover reprinted it too. I have it actually. There are editions that are better than the Kroll which is known to be inaccurate in places. Why do you want it?

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#1975691 - 10/19/12 12:28 PM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Marie1]
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I want to buy the Jones/Tovey edition soon. I think it is one of the best at the moment. Did your teacher tell you to buy the Kroll edition?
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#1975713 - 10/19/12 01:03 PM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: ChopinAddict]
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Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
I want to buy the Jones/Tovey edition soon. I think it is one of the best at the moment. Did your teacher tell you to buy the Kroll edition?
I hear that's very good too.

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#1975721 - 10/19/12 01:33 PM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Marie1]
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The Jones/Tovey edition is very good, as is the Barenreiter, the Henle, and a few others.

Then there are editions which are really interpretations - not good scholarly editions but provide a point of view for performance, like the Bartok edition.

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#1975892 - 10/19/12 07:08 PM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Marie1]
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I have Bk II in the Peters/Kroll edition. I am not so sure what is special about it, nor why anyone would eagerly seek it out, given all the other good editions available.

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#1975900 - 10/19/12 07:24 PM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Marie1]
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The ONLY reliable and current Urtext edition is Bärenreiter.
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#1975978 - 10/19/12 09:54 PM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Marie1]
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I have an unreliable edition. The notes move around whenever you try to play them! Sometimes they leave and go out and get drunk.
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#1976018 - 10/20/12 12:08 AM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: BruceD]
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Originally Posted By: BruceD
I have Bk II in the Peters/Kroll edition. I am not so sure what is special about it, nor why anyone would eagerly seek it out, given all the other good editions available.

I wondered too.

Sure, there are worse editions grin ....but lots of good ones. From a quick look at this one (via chopin_r_us's link), I didn't see what might be regarded as special about it.

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#1976066 - 10/20/12 03:31 AM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: BruceD
I have Bk II in the Peters/Kroll edition. I am not so sure what is special about it, nor why anyone would eagerly seek it out, given all the other good editions available.

I wondered too.

Sure, there are worse editions grin ....but lots of good ones. From a quick look at this one (via chopin_r_us's link), I didn't see what might be regarded as special about it.
It was the first urtext, a very scholarly edition - something rare in the 19th century world of Bach.

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#1979230 - 10/27/12 09:51 AM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Marie1]
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All of your suggestions sound good, but what I need is the edition that comes closest to the Kroll. I am quite elderly, have been playing from the Kroll edition for years and find it difficult to contemplate a change. Have any of you used second-hand book stores that handle sheet music? I would appreciate any suggestions. I did buy the Bischoff.

Thanks.

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#1981036 - 10/31/12 06:14 PM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Marie1]
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Yes, I often go to second-hand book stores in the hope to find some treasures. I don't know where you are. Here (in Sydney, Australia) for example we also have a second-hand book store focussing on music. Maybe you have something similar where you are? These days you can often also find what you want online, for example on eBay.
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#1981172 - 10/31/12 11:43 PM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: BDB]
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Originally Posted By: BDB
I have an unreliable edition. The notes move around whenever you try to play them! Sometimes they leave and go out and get drunk.


Hey, I've got that edition!
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#1981558 - 11/01/12 11:02 PM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Marie1]
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Try this source.

http://shop.vendio.com/seanmusic/item/716381894/index.html

I put "Bach Peters" in the search box. Search box is the way to go to find stuff with this new/used scores and LPs seller.

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#1982373 - 11/03/12 08:14 PM Re: Bach - The Well Tempered Clavier - Peters - Kroll Edition [Re: Marie1]
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I really prefer Henle, their fingering-department deserves the Nobelprize for, well, fingering Bach.


Edited by dolce sfogato (11/03/12 08:14 PM)
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