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I don't doubt Mike, so sure, "mellow" is probably as close as the 150 comes to the 350's "dolce" -- but the 350 also has mellow, which I assume is identical to mellow on the 150, so dolce, while presumably close, is still different enough to have warranted its own preset.

And yes, as I pretty much said, altering the touch so that that you have to hit harder to get higher velocity samples will make it easier to get a gentle sound out of it, but that's not the same, it won't affect the playback of MIDI generated data. Though if Dolce was derived largely by a change in velocity mapping (as opposed to EQ or other processing), I could see where playing a less gentle sound on a velocity setting that made it harder to get high velocity sounds out of it would result in, well, a more gentle sound!

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I just sold my P95 a few hours ago. Maybe its a mid life crisis because I am turning 40 next week LOL.
Excited about whats coming next though. Probably waiting around for more coupons from MF smile

The 95's sound was mellow in general, but the bright piano certainly wasn't bright with the built in speakers. I would describe the bright piano on the 105 as "nice piano". Its pleasing to hear.


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Casio PX 850 has 2 pairs of loud speakers with total power of 24 watts, while Yamaha as only half of number of loudspeakers and half of the voice power.
What if I use the total of only 8 watts for Yamaha or Casio? Does Yamaha sound better?
Does Casio sound better when I use the total of 12 watts on either Yamaha or Casio?

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More watts doesn't make something sound better... all else being equal, it allows it to go louder, or to be clean at louder levels. So the way to use "less" power than is built into a piano is to turn the volume knob down. Though even then, the extra power available may allow peaks to play more cleanly.

But also, all else is never equal. So in fact, 12 watts into a very efficient speaker system can be louder than 24 into an inefficient one. So as usual, the only way to even be sure which is louder is to hear it in person. (Unless maybe the spec sheet includes SPL ratings, which are far more useful than wattage specs, when you're dealing with systems where the amp can't be decoupled from the speakers.

At any rate, it sounds like what you really want to do is compare the sound of two pianos apart from their variables in amps and speakers. You can do that very easily... just audition them with good headphones. That bypasses the amp and speaker variable completely.


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Just followed suit tonight- MF honored the $100 off from GC so got it for $499 ($250 upgrade fee)
I'll review it more when it arrives and is in the same room, but I feel it is defintely worth it


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Hello everybody. I bought this weekend the new digital piano Yamaha P-105 smile In store only had one for sale. I'm very happy with it.
I was undecided between P-105 and Px-150, but where I live I could only try the P-105. I think the Yamaha is well represented in Portugal unlike Casio. Casio not bet on the Portuguese market...
This forum really helped me make my decision. Thanks!


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Well done Carlos. Seems a big improvement on the former P95 in terms of piano sound. There're also good options for computer interfacing.

You're right - about Casio in Portugal. My first option when I was buying was for a Casio, but I couldn't find the models to demo. My second option for experimenting was Kawai, but they are almost impossible to find in Portugal, so I didn't take the risk.

Roland and Yamaha are quite well represented though, which is OK because, on the whole, I like their stuff a lot.


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I believe I am going to get a p105 in the near future.. this forum also helped me.

Upgrading from a yamaha DGX305. (yes it has a lot of age)



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If the P105 uses the same speakers as the DGX 630, I think most would find them more than adequate. My DGX is loud . . . and clear. One o` the reasons I bought it. The other was it was going cheap . .


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Hi
I too have a P105 Yamaha Digital Piano. Throughthe earphones the sound quality is very good. But when I connect it to HS5 studio monitors, the sound quality is very bad in the GP mode.

Can you please let me know what amp are you using...?



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