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Poem Scriabin wrote about his Sonata No.4 #1970892
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At a Mannes master class today Eteri Anjadparidze
http://www.andjaparidze.com/
talked about a poem Scriabin had written after composing his Sonata No.4. As I understood her, the poem was about the meaning of this Sonata, which Andjaparidze said was about the stars. Scriabin begins by contemplating the stars and in the second movement moves towards them and finally "engulfs' them.

Is anyone familiar with this poem? Is there an online source for it(a quick search was unsuccessful)?

Last edited by pianoloverus; 10/09/12 04:52 PM.
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Re: Poem Scriabin wrote about his Sonata No.4 [Re: pianoloverus] #1970927
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Here's the translated text from the Bowers biography.

In a light mist, transparent vapor
Lost afar and yet distinct
A star gleams softly.

How beautiful! The bluish mystery
Of her glow
Beckons me, cradles me.

O bring me to thee, far distant star!
Bathe me in trembling rays
Sweet light!

Sharp desire, voluptuous and crazed yet sweet
Endlessly with no other goal than longing
I would desire

But no! I vault in joyous leap
Freely I take wing

Mad dance, godlike play!
Intoxicating, shining one!

It is toward thee, adored star
My flight guides me

Mad dance, godlike play!
Intoxicating, shining one!

Toward thee, created freely for me
To serve the end
My flight of liberation!

In this play
Sheer caprice
In moments I forget thee
In the maelstrom that carries me
I veer from they glimmering rays

In the intensity of desire
Thou fadest
O distant goal

But ever thou shinest
As I forever desire thee!

Thou expandest, Star!
Now thou art a Sun
Flamboyant Sun! Sun of Triumph!

Approaching thee by my desire for thee
I lave myself in they changing waves
O joyous god

I swallow thee
Sea of light

My self-of-light

I engulf thee!

Re: Poem Scriabin wrote about his Sonata No.4 [Re: pianoloverus] #1971466
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And no word of thanks . . .


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Re: Poem Scriabin wrote about his Sonata No.4 [Re: pianoloverus] #1971962
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and read 'le poeme de l'extase' before playing sonata nr.5!


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Re: Poem Scriabin wrote about his Sonata No.4 [Re: dolce sfogato] #1978854
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Originally Posted by dolce sfogato
and read 'le poeme de l'extase' before playing sonata nr.5!


Do you happen to have an English version of this poem you can copy/paste here? Thanks in advance.

Re: Poem Scriabin wrote about his Sonata No.4 [Re: babama] #1978963
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Originally Posted by babama
Originally Posted by dolce sfogato
and read 'le poeme de l'extase' before playing sonata nr.5!


Do you happen to have an English version of this poem you can copy/paste here? Thanks in advance.


Originally Posted by Poem of Ecstasy
Spirit,
Winged with thirst for life,
Is drawn into flight
On the summits of negation.
There, under the rays of its dream,
Emerges a magical world
Of heavenly forms and feelings
Spirit playing,
Spirit desiring.
Spirit creating all with a dream.
Surrender to the bliss of love.
Mid the risen creations
It dwells in languor,
From the height of inspiration
Calls them to flower.
And drunken with soaring
It is ready to sink into oblivion.

But suddenly...
Trembling presentiments
Of dark rhythm
Break rudely into
This enchanted world,
But only for an instant.
With light increase
Of divine will
It dispels
Frightening phantoms.
And it attained
Only desired victory
Over itself.
Spirit playing,
Spirit caressing,
Spirit calling hope of joy
Surrenders to the bliss of love.
Mid the flowers of its creation,
It lingers with a kiss
Over a whole world of titillation
Summons it to ecstasy.
Intoxicating it with breaths.
Dazzling it with beauty
It is transported, it tittups,
Dances and whirls;
With a whole range of sensations
It is tormented, wearied.
Ready to sink into oblivion
But again...

From mysterious wombs
The spirit confused
A formless host
Of savage terrors
Rises stormily
In menacing waves;
Spirit playing
Spirit fluttering
By its enduring longing
Creating Ecstasy
Gives itself up to Love's thrill
Mid the flowers of its creations
It lives in freedom.

"I summon you to life,
Hidden longings!
You, sunken
In the somber depths of creative spirit,
You timid embryos
Of life,
To you I bring
Daring!


Now you are free!
Fragment and flower
Separately
Rise up against another
Flee to the summits
That in sweetest bliss
You may know all your oneness
Annihilated within me!
Rise up one against another,
Strike against me,
Negate your love!
Turn against me, all people and
elements,
All horrors lift up your heads
Try to destroy me,
Negate your love!
Turn against me, all people and
elements,
All horrors lift up your heads
Try to destroy me,
Caverns of dragons' mouths
Serpents twist round me
Constrict me and bite me!

When all rises
Against me,
Then I begin
My
Play.

O waiting world,
weary world!
You are thirsting to be created
You seek the creator.
Your tender sweet sigh,
Calling
Has been wafted to me.
I will come.
Already I dwell in you
O world of mine!

With mysterious delights
Of unknown feelings,
With myriads of dream and vision
With inspiration's flame
With Truth seeking
With the forbidden wish
Of divine freedom.
O my beloved world,
I shall come.
Your dream of me
Is being born
It is I.
Already I am manifest
In mysterious presence
A barely perceptible
Breath of freedom.
Lightly,
A wisp of dream
The wave
Of my being
Has already seized you.
You are quivering already
I am your beloved freedom
You my beloved world!

I am come
to dazzle you
With the marvel
Of enchantment repeated;
I bring you
The magical shiver
Of scorching love
And unimaginable caresses.
Surrender to me in all faith!
I will drown you in oceans of bliss
And beloved kisses
And great heaving waves
But in our remoteness playing
Only the spray
Envelops you
And you insanely desire
Something else!
The new!

And then in torrents of flowers
I will lie upon you
With aromas and scents
I will bask languidly
In this play of fragrance
Now tender, now sharp
In the play of touches,
Now soft, now harsh
And sinking into passion
You will
Whisper:
Again and
Ever again!

Then I will plunge
With a horde of fearsome monsters
With savage torment and terror
I will crawl upon you with verminous
nests of snakes
And will bite and choke you!
And you will want me
More madly, more passionately.
Then I will lie upon you
Under rays of celestial suns
And you will burn with the fires
Of my emotion
The holy
Flames of desire
For the sweetest,
The most forbidden,
Most mysterious.

And all of you become a single wave
Of liberty and joy.
Multiplicity has created you
Legions of feelings
Have elevated you
O pure desires,
I create you,
This complex unity
This feeling of bliss
Seizes you completely.

II am instant illuminating eternity
I am the affirmation
I am Ecstasy"

The universe
Is embraced in flames
Spirit at the summit of its being
Feels
Endless tides
Of divine power
Of free will.
Emboldened,
That which menaced
Is now seduction
That which frightened
Is now pleasure.
And the bites of panther and hyena
Are new caresses
And the serpent's sting
Is but a burning kiss.
And thus the universe resound
With joyful cry
I AM!



If you are playing the 5th, have fun! I might also be tackling the work in the near future. laugh

Re: Poem Scriabin wrote about his Sonata No.4 [Re: ScriabinAddict] #1979216
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Originally Posted by ScriabinAddict


If you are playing the 5th, have fun! I might also be tackling the work in the near future. laugh


Go for it! thumb


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Re: Poem Scriabin wrote about his Sonata No.4 [Re: pianoloverus] #1979221
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For those of us, like myself, not previously familiar with these poems, I'd guess they add even more to the "amazingness" of these pieces.

Re: Poem Scriabin wrote about his Sonata No.4 [Re: pianoloverus] #1979963
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Oh wow, I'd never seen the full Poem of Ecstasy before, just the little excerpt written at the top of the 5th. Thanks for writing, hopefully it inspires my performance of it in 3 weeks... (I'm terrified).

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I think the poetry is meagre, the aspired esthetics are doubtful, the whole theosophic aftermath is quite ridiculous, but the sum of these questionable dabblings is genius, what a strange man he was, luckily.


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