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It's an old demo that has been posted several times: it's an excellent demo showing how much marketing people don't understand the customers they make the products for. A long sideshow of some people behind new instruments, without ever giving an impression how the pianos will sound. Completely useless for people looking for the right DP to buy, like you and I. Probably a business presentations for their stock holders.
The more common usage, as in MP3 and JPEG, is that data is removed by an algorithm that attempts to automatically determines the "least noticeable" bits of data, so that something perceptibly close to the original (we hope) is generated from the smaller file when subsequently decompressed.
Yes, details that are imperceptible (at a given resolution and if not further processed / edited in an extreme way) to the eye / ear are removed during compression phase.
To use MP3 or similar to compress the sample set means the DP needs to decompress lots of samples either on the fly or to RAM. With slower hardware this could make changing from one voice to another a fairly sluggish experience. Given proper hardware it could certainly be done, but from what we've seen re DP technology I have doubts that anyone is actually doing it.
Mike Martin just said over on another thread that the new Casios still have 4 velocity layers. I suppose only time (and testing) will tell if they are stretched / looped. My wife has a student who needs a low-end model ASAP and it would really help if manufacturers were more forthcoming with this kind of info. Every slightly new model has a slew of brand new technical sounding yet cryptic claims associated with it that must be laboriously decoded by the lay public. Which doesn't make for a very pleasant shopping experience IMO.
Mike Martin just said over on another thread that the new Casios still have 4 velocity layers. I suppose only time (and testing) will tell if they are stretched / looped.
Yes samples are looped. Yes there is some stretching. In general you'll find the samples in the new PX-_50 series are about 3 times longer than in previous products. There are also more samples across the 88 note range.
Yes samples are looped. Yes there is some stretching. In general you'll find the samples in the new PX-_50 series are about 3 times longer than in previous products. There are also more samples across the 88 note range.
Wow, thank you very much for that info Mike!
Originally Posted by Kawai James
Uh oh...someone in Northern NJ isn't going to be terribly happy...
Ha ha! Such a kidder...
Given the 3x larger sample info (revealed earlier) I was expecting stretching & looping, but the compression conundrum threw me for a loop, so to speak.
Given the 3x larger sample info (revealed earlier) I was expecting stretching & looping, but the compression conundrum threw me for a loop, so to speak.
You're welcome. There is nothing to hide and you're going to find out sooner or later anyway. Compared to our competition this is the area where I think you'll find some significant differences.
I'm not about to get into a discussion on the compression issue. The bottom line is the audio quality of the new Privia is substantially better.
So refreshing that a manufacturer's representative can come out and just tell us some basic technical information with no fuss and drama. Thank you, Mike. Since all DPs have compromises built-in, it helps those of us who are considering a purchase weigh up the pros and cons of each model more accurately.
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Mike, whats the word? Why is the PX-150 still listed as Pre-order or not at all on most websites? I've checked Sweetwater and Musicians friend. Kraft music has them..but only on pre-order.
There is nothing to hide and you're going to find out sooner or later anyway. Compared to our competition this is the area where I think you'll find some significant differences.
I'm very much looking forward to reviewing them!
While we're on the subject I thought I'd put this out there, no pressure, but to the best of my knowledge no manufacturer has directly supplied a DPBSD MP3. If your or someone at Casio could do so that would be great. Like all DPBSD submitters, I'd work with you guys in the background and wouldn't post the review until we were all satisfied with it. If you can't I completely understand.
Sam Ash and J&R have them listed as in stock. There are none in Guitar Center showrooms anywhere on the West Coast. I'm waiting for one to show up in PDX.
BrokenChord, The PX-350 has several things the PX-150 does not. Here is a quick list...
232 additional tones 180 rhythms with full accompaniment The ability to split/layer tones and store registrations for live performance Adjustable split point 1/4" outputs 1/4" Inputs MIDI I/O Stereo .Wav Audio File Recording to a USB thumb drive SMF Player LCD Display and yes, a 17 track recorder.
BrokenChord, The PX-350 has several things the PX-150 does not. Here is a quick list...
232 additional tones 180 rhythms with full accompaniment The ability to split/layer tones and store registrations for live performance Adjustable split point 1/4" outputs 1/4" Inputs MIDI I/O Stereo .Wav Audio File Recording to a USB thumb drive SMF Player LCD Display and yes, a 17 track recorder.
Would you be able to tell us how the speakers are different and also how this generation's speakers are different than the 2009 (x30) models?
Guitar Center in Chicago said they have 26 in the distribution channel, but that the earliest they'd have one in a store is around two weeks from now. Aaarggh!!!! Still trying to figure out the choice between a px-350 and a used MO8.
Still trying to figure out the choice between a px-350 and a used MO8.
The MO8 is almost twice as heavy (46.3 lbs) and significantly deeper (15.3") and has BHE not GHS/GH. I looked at a MOX8 before getting my 330 -- MOX8 is awesome, but it's a mountain of wizardry! Depends on what you want. I just wanted a 3-pedal setup with okay piano sound/key feel, and a GM patch set for kicks. I suspect the MO8 doesn't excel at realistic acoustic piano sound -- it's a synth not a digital piano.
Those sound like nice features, but not anything I need. Im just a college kid, so I can't justify spending $200 extra on those features. As long as I can plug in my headphones and practice, I'm good.
I have a question though. I purchased a CS-67 from Amazon yesterday since they listed it as compatible with the PX-150 and PX-350...but what about the SP-32 pedal? Kraft Music is bundling the keyboards with a CS-67 and an SP-33. I have not been able to find the SP-33, is it not released?