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Roland digital piano and midi
#1961045 09/19/12 09:46 AM
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Hi,

I am new to the forum.

I recently bought a Roland Rp301 from Roland and am delighted
with the quality of tone and the piano in general

My question is around midi.
One of the reasons I chose a digital piano was for
its dual purpose. My 49 key midi keyboard doesn't have the feel
of weighted keys nor the full 88 key range.

I use Cubase 5 as my Daw and have connected my Roland
to my pc via a midi to usb cable.
My pc recognises the cable.
And in my Daw, the input shows up as Usb midi cable
and the output is set as Halion (a Cubase synth).

When I play my Roland , there is no midi information received to
the Daw. I went to devices and midi port set-up and the midi -in is
showing up but the midi out says disabled.

Can someone help me out please?

I've tried everything but my pc isn't picking up the Roland.

Regards,

Kevin


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Re: Roland digital piano and midi
ConstantGardener #1961092 09/19/12 12:04 PM
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Kevin,

First, let me apologize in advance if the following seems insultingly obvious ... that is not the intent.

You need two MIDI cables - connect one cable to the RP301 MIDI Out and the other end to the USB MIDI adapter MIDI In. Connect the other MIDI cable between the RP301 MIDI In and the USB adapter MIDI Out.

In you DAW (I am not familiar with Cubase, so I may not explain this well), you need to have a track set up so the track input selects the USB adapter. The track MIDI input channel should be set to whatever the RP301 is outputting, or just set it to Omni, so whatever is coming in from the RP301 will be accepted. The track MIDI out should be connected to either the Cubase synth OR to the USB adapter MIDI Out (if you want whatever you record on the MIDI track to drive the RP301).

One last complication to consider if you are connecting the DAW track MIDI Out to the RP301 - MIDI Echo. What this refers to is the MIDI signal coming into the DAW being 'echoed' back to the MIDI Out or not. MIDI keyboards generally have two modes, typically referred to as Local Control On or Off. When Local Control (on the Keyboard) is On, the MIDI signal is connected to the internal Keyboard sound module, and is also sent out the MIDI Out port. When the Local Control is Off, the Keyboard MIDI signal is still sent to the MIDI Out port, but it is not connected to the Keyboard sound module. Meanwhile in the DAW (i.e., Cubase in your case), if Echo is On, then MIDI In is echoed to the MIDI Out. So with Local Off on the RP301 and Echo On in your DAW, the Keyboard MIDI signal goes out the MIDI Out port, is received in the DAW, and finally echoed back to the Keyboard MIDI In and drives the Keyboard sound module.

So how does any of this Local Control and Echo go wrong when you are trying to use the Keyboard sound module? If Local Control is On and Echo is On, then the Keyboard sound module first receives the MIDI signal from the Keyboard MIDI signal AND a slightly delayed MIDI signal from the DAW. This creates a strangely distorted sound. If Local Control is Off and Echo is Off, then the MIDI signal never makes it to the Keyboard sound module.

Most DAWs try to handle Echo and Local Control automatically, but my DAW (Sonar) manages to screw it up, so I have the Automatic Echo disabled and set the Echo state manually.

I hope this information will be helpful for you. If I have simply confused you, maybe the information will still help you formulate question that you can research on the Web to get if figured out.

Good luck.


Regards,
Bob

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