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What is the absolute worst live performance by a renowned pianist you've ever heard?? (excluding Lang Lang, Yundi Li and Horowitz in his drugged up years)

I must say that personally, this rendition of the 4th ballade takes the cake. It's like he was utterly bored, or had the flu..


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If you count seeing a video of it online, it's Argerich's performance of Chopin's 1st Ballade which (fortunately or unfortunately) has been taken down from youtube.

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Originally Posted by Mark_C
If you count seeing a video of it online, it's Argerich's performance of Chopin's 1st Ballade...

The worst performance? I don't think so. Yes, it is fast and rather scrambled, but you don't criticize technical address on that level.

Sorry mate, perhaps Argerich had too much coffee, but she does not play badly. (Okay, not a performance I could live with, but no playing of Argerich is ever the 'the worst', IMO.)

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Originally Posted by argerichfan
The worst performance? I don't think so....

Jason, it looks like your allegiance made you forget what the question was. smile

The worst live performance that we've heard by a renowned pianist.

And indeed I promise you that if seeing it online counts, indeed there has been none worse.
That I've heard.
Indeed. smile

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....oh....or maybe you weren't being really serious -- in which case I was too serious. smile

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Originally Posted by Mark_C

The worst live performance that we've heard by a renowned pianist.

Okay, okay, fair enough. I was too busy with Fleisher. (BTW, you need to read that book!) smile

Yeah, it's Argerich at her most impatient. I've never liked it, truth to tell. And her live Tchaikovsky has none of the poise of the studio recording.

But Argerich is just... Argerich. Like Horowitz, she has her off days.




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Originally Posted by argerichfan

But Argerich is just... Argerich. Like Horowitz, she has her off days.


Puh-lease! laugh

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I fail to see the usefulness of making sport of putting people's bad days on display.

And seriously...calling that video of Berezovsky the worst rendition of something makes me want to never post a video of any of my playing here on PianoWorld ever.

The world is not a competition and we are not its jury. I'd hate to see PianoWorld become the same kind of adolescent cesspool of criticism that YouTube has become.

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Originally Posted by Kreisler
I'd hate to see PianoWorld become the same kind of adolescent cesspool of criticism that YouTube has become.

ugh...


Thank you. I couldn't agree more.


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I agree. I still want to have Berezovsky's baby. I don't care if his inspiration wanes from day to day. Nobody is perfect all the time. The up days are so magnificent. We should celebrate their glories and not focus on when they aren't so glorious.

As for me, I don't think I've ever witnessed a non-thrilling recital. But ticket prices being what they are, it's been a while since I've been to one.

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Originally Posted by Kreisler
I'd hate to see PianoWorld become the same kind of adolescent cesspool of criticism that YouTube has become.

But YouTube isn't moderated. I fail to see the comparison. (And PW is peaches compared to the Radio 3 Forum which is even more heavily moderated.)

Lots of nasty stuff on YT, but who cares? I only make a point of commenting positively, if I don't care for a recording, I move on.


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Originally Posted by Kreisler
I fail to see the usefulness of making sport of putting people's bad days on display.

And seriously...calling that video of Berezovsky the worst rendition of something makes me want to never post a video of any of my playing here on PianoWorld ever.

The world is not a competition and we are not its jury. I'd hate to see PianoWorld become the same kind of adolescent cesspool of criticism that YouTube has become.

ugh...
Exactly.

It's good for young and inexperienced musicians to ask questions, but the description of Berezovsky's performance the OP is frankly outrageous(even though I didn't like what I listened to in the first minute). Same comment for the title of this thread.

Start out with respect for a winner of the Tchaikovsky competition and even much "lesser" pianists. Then you will learn something about playing the piano.

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Originally Posted by Kreisler


And seriously...calling that video of Berezovsky the worst rendition of something makes me want to never post a video of any of my playing here on PianoWorld ever.


I think most of us would love to have an "off day" like the one Boris is having there!

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Originally Posted by Kreisler
I'd hate to see PianoWorld become the same kind of adolescent cesspool of criticism that YouTube has become.

ugh...


Thank you. I couldn't agree more.


I agree too.



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Originally Posted by mazurkajoe
What is the absolute worst live performance by a renowned pianist you've ever heard?? (excluding Lang Lang, Yundi Li and Horowitz in his drugged up years)

Welcome to the real world. Any other questions?

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Youtube isn't a cesspool of criticism it's a cesspool of nastiness. Criticism doesn't necessarily have to be nasty. I think the OP poses a genuinely interesting question and I'm sure we can all behave like adults while discussing it.

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Originally Posted by debrucey
[...]I think the OP poses a genuinely interesting question and I'm sure we can all behave like adults while discussing it.


What is there to discuss? What is the point in highlighting bad moments in professional careers? It seems, at best, a rather puerile pursuit.

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