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Another thing, jazz can encompass so many things that you really need to be specific. I don't even like certain kinds of jazz like old waltzes or swing tunes, and I consider myself a jazz musician.

Many pop stars have a jazz influence.

Sting is a good example. Many of his sidemen were proper jazz players, Branford Marsalis, Kenny Kirkland, Jason Rebello...

Jamie Cullum, Norah Jones.... they aren't jazz but you can tell they know it.

You are absolutely correct, so here it is:

I specifically do not like jazz.

That tells me nothing. give me specific examples of musicians or jazz songs you don't like. Oscar Peterson and Wayne Shorter are both jazz, but sound completely different. Herbie Hancock is jazz but plays pop too.

Some people think Kenny G is jazz! Or Miles Davis.

Not sure why you even started this thread, if you don't like jazz just move on. No one's forcing you to listen to it. There's lots of music I don't like, but I'd rather focus on the stuff I do. I suggest the same for you.

Seeing as you asked so nicely, here is a quick abreviated list of just the jazz musicians I dont like, for jazz noises ( what jazz types call "songs" there is a longer list)

Here you go...

List of jazz musicians
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This is a list of jazz musicians on whom Wikipedia has articles.
Contents

1 Giants of Jazz
2 By period
2.1 Early jazz musicians
2.2 Swing era
2.3 Modern innovators
2.4 Jazz fusion
3 By instrument
3.1 Accordion
3.2 Bagpipes
3.3 Banjo
3.4 Bass
3.5 Cello
3.6 Clarinet
3.7 Cornet
3.8 Drums
3.9 Flute
3.10 French horn
3.11 Guitar
3.12 Guitar Synthesizer
3.13 Harmonica
3.14 Harp
3.15 Multi-instrumentalists
3.16 Organ
3.17 Piano
3.18 Saxophone
3.19 Trombone
3.20 Trumpet
3.21 Flugelhorn
3.22 Vibraphone
3.23 Violin
3.24 Vocal
4 References

Giants of Jazz
Main article: Jazz royalty

By Birthdate
Instrumentalists

Scott Joplin (1868–1917)
Charles “Buddy” Bolden (1877–1931)
Duke Ellington (1899–1974)
Louis Armstrong (1901–71)
Earl Hines (1903–83)
Fats Waller (1904–43)
Count Basie (1904–84)
Benny Goodman (1909–86)
Art Tatum (1909–56)
Sun Ra (1914–93)
Thelonious Monk (1917–82)
Dizzy Gillespie (1917–93)
Clark Terry (born 1920)
Charlie Parker (1920–55)
Dave Brubeck (born 1920)
Charles Mingus (1922–79)
Oscar Peterson (1925–2007)
Miles Davis (1926–91)
John Coltrane (1926–67)
Chet Baker (1929–88)
Ornette Coleman (born 1930)

Vocalists

Louis Armstrong (1901–71)
Billie Holiday (1915–59)
Ella Fitzgerald (1917–96)
Dinah Washington (1924-63)
Sarah Vaughan (1924–90)
Nina Simone (1933-2003)

By period
Early jazz musicians

Louis Armstrong (1901–71)
Sidney Bechet (1897–1959)
Bix Beiderbecke (1903–31)
Buddy Bolden (1877–1930)
Earl Hines (1903–83)
Bunk Johnson (1879/1889–1949)
Nick LaRocca (1889–1961) & the members of the "Original Dixieland Jazz Band"
Jelly Roll Morton (1890–1941)
Joe "King" Oliver (1885–1938)
Red Nichols (1905–65)

Swing era

Count Basie (1904–84)
Cab Calloway (1907–94)
Benny Carter (1907–2003)
Charlie Christian (1918–42)
Jimmy Dorsey (1904–57)
Tommy Dorsey (1905–56)
Duke Ellington (1899–1974)
Benny Goodman (1909–86)
Coleman Hawkins (1904–69)
Fletcher Henderson (1897–1952)
Earl Hines (1903–83)
Johnny Hodges (1907–70)
Dick Johnson (1925–2010)
Jay McShann (1916–2006)
Glenn Miller (1904–44)
George Paxton (1914–89)
Artie Shaw (1910–2004)
Clark Terry (born 1920)
Fats Waller (1904–43)
Ben Webster (1909–73)
Paul Whiteman (1890–1967)
Lester Young (1909–1959)

Modern innovators

Toshiko Akiyoshi (born 1929)
Chet Baker (1929–88)
Dave Brubeck (born 1920)
Ornette Coleman (born 1930)
John Coltrane (1926–67)
Chick Corea (born 1941)
Miles Davis (1926–91)
Bill Evans (1929–80)
Gil Evans (1912–88)
Maynard Ferguson (1928–2006)
Dizzy Gillespie (1917–93)
Dexter Gordon (1923-90)
Chico Hamilton (born 1921)
Herbie Hancock (born 1940)
Joe Harriott (1928–73)
Thad Jones (1923–86)
Mark Kramer (born 1945)
Fela Kuti (1938–97)
Shelly Manne (1920–1984)
Frank Marocco (born 1931)
Jackie McLean (1931–2006)
Charles Mingus (1922–79)
Marcus Miller (born 1959)
Thelonious Monk (1917–82)
Charlie Parker (1920–55)
Oscar Peterson (1925–07)
Bud Powell (1924–66)
Louis Prima (1910–78)
Sun Ra (1914–93)
Max Roach (1924–2007)
Sonny Rollins (born 1930)
Wayne Shorter (born 1933)
Peter Sprague (born 1955)
Sonny Stitt (1924–1982)
Ira Sullivan (born 1931)
Cal Tjader (1925–1982)
Clark Terry (born 1920)
Dhafer Youssef (born 1967)

Jazz fusion
Main article: List of jazz fusion artists
By instrument
Accordion

Luciano Biondini
Richard Galliano (born 1950)
Pete Jolly
Frank Marocco (1931-2012)
Mat Mathews
George Shearing
Art Van Damme (1920–2010)

Bagpipes

Rufus Harley (1936–2006)
James Rivers (?- present)

Banjo

Jimmy Mazzy
Béla Fleck (born 1958)

Bass
Main article: List of jazz bassists

Arild Andersen (born 1945)
Don Bagley (1927–2012)
Max Bennett (born 1928)
Keter Betts (1928–2005)
Jimmy Blanton (1918–1942)
Richard Bona (born 1967)
Wellman Braud (1891–1966
Brian Bromberg (born 1960)
Ray Brown (1926–2002)
Steve Brown (born 1942)
Ron Carter (born 1937)
Paul Chambers (1935–1969)
Stanley Clarke (born 1951)
Bill Crow (born 1927)
Art Davis (1934–2007)
Richard Davis (born 1930)
Ray Drummond (born 1946)
Jimmy Earl (born 1957)
Pops Foster (1892–1969)
Eddie Gomez (born 1944)
Jimmy Garrison (1933–1976)
Vivien Garry (died 2008)
Coleridge Goode (born 1914)
Henry Grimes (born 1935)
Charlie Haden (born 1937)
Stuart Hamm (born 1960)
Milt Hinton (1910–2000)
Dave Holland (born 1946)
Chubby Jackson (1918–2003)
Bill Johnson (double-bassist) (1872–1972)
Red Kelly (born 1927)
Scott La Faro (1936–1961)
Wendell Marshall (1920–2002)
Cecil McBee (born 1935)
Christian McBride (born 1972)
Ron McClure (born 1941)
Pierre Michelot (1928–2005)
Marcus Miller (born 1959)
Charles Mingus (1922–1979)
Red Mitchell (1927–1992)
Joe Mondragon (1920–1987)
George Mraz (born 1944)
William Parker (born 1952)
Jaco Pastorius (1951–1987)
John Patitucci (born 1959)
Gary Peacock (born 1935)
Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen (1946–2005)
Oscar Pettiford (1922–1960)
Terry Plumeri (born 1945)
Pino Presti (born 1943)
Rocco Prestia (born 1951)
Sage Reynolds
Steve Rodby (born 1954)
Clarence Seay (born 1957)
Patrick Scales (born 1965)
Esperanza Spalding (born 1984)
Slam Stewart (1914–1987)
Brian Q. Torff (born 1954)
Miroslav Vitouš (born 1947)
Eberhard Weber (born 1940)
Gary Willis (born 1957)
Eugene Wright (born 1923)

Cello

Matt Brubeck
Oscar Pettiford
Mark Summer

Clarinet

Woody Allen (born 1935)
Craig Ball
Barney Bigard
Don Byron
Evan Christopher
Anat Cohen
Eddie Daniels
Kenny Davern
Buddy DeFranco
Johnny Dodds
Irving Fazola
Pete Fountain (born 1930)
Victor Goines
Benny Goodman (1909–86)
Edmond Hall
Jimmy Hamilton
Woody Herman
Peanuts Hucko
Michael Marcus
Ken Peplowski
Woody Herman
Sid Phillips
Russell Procope
Pee Wee Russell
Tony Scott
Artie Shaw
Putte Wickman
Lester Young

Cornet

Nat Adderley (1931–2000)
Louis Armstrong (1901–71)
Bix Beiderbecke (1903–31)
Buddy Bolden (1877–1931)
Bobby Hackett
Jeff Hughes
Red Nichols (1905–65)
Rex Stewart
Chris Tyle
Steamboat Willie

Drums
Main article: list of jazz drummers
Flute

Don Burrows
Peter Guidi
Paul Horn
Rahsaan Roland Kirk (1935–77)
Moe Koffman
Hubert Laws (born 1939)
Yusef Lateef (born 1920)
Herbie Mann (1930–2003)
Bill McBirnie
James Moody
Sam Most
James Newton
Sam Rivers (born 1923)
Bud Shank
Les Spann
Jeremy Steig
Dave Valentin
Frank Wess

French horn

John Clark
Junior Collins
Willie Ruff
Tom Varner
Julius Watkins

Guitar
Main article: list of jazz guitarists

Laurindo Almeida
Paul Bollenback
George Benson
Kenny Burrell
Royce Campbell
Larry Carlton
Dan Faehnle
Tal Farlow
Jim Ferguson
Scott Fields
Grant Green (1935–79)
Tiny Grimes
Vic Juris
Barney Kessel (1923–2004)
Earl Klugh (born 1954)
Mundell Lowe
Pat Metheny
Oscar Moore
Wes Montgomery (1923–68)
Bucky Pizzarelli
John Pizzarelli
Jimmy Raney
Django Reinhardt (1910–53)
Emily Remler (1957–90)
Sal Salvador
Johnny Smith
Les Spann
Peter Sprague (born 1955)
Chuck Wayne
Jack Wilkins

Guitar Synthesizer

Adrian Belew
John McLaughlin (musician)
Pat Metheny (born 1954)
Peter Sprague (born 1955)

Harmonica

Eddie Shu
Toots Thielemans

Harp

Dorothy Ashby
Alice Coltrane
Corky Hale

Multi-instrumentalists

Mose Allison (piano, trumpet)
Dee Barton (trombone, drums)
Count Basie (piano, organ)
Sidney Bechet (1897–1959), (clarinet, soprano sax, trumpet, bass, drums)
Larry Bunker (drums, vibes)
Jaki Byard (1922–99), (alto sax, piano)
Benny Carter (1907–2003), (alto sax, trumpet)
Ron Carter (bass, piccolo bass)
Ray Charles (piano, alto sax)
Ornette Coleman (alto sax, violin, trumpet)
Alice Coltrane (1937–2007), (piano, organ, harp)
Eric Dolphy (1928–64), (bass clarinet, clarinet, flute, alto sax)
Don Ellis (trumpet, drums)
Bob Enevoldsen (trombone, tenor sax, bass)
Victor Feldman (1934–87), (piano, vibraphone, conga drum)
Johnny Frigo (violin, bass)
Tyree Glenn (trombobne, vibes)
Corky Hale (piano, harp)
Lionel Hampton (vibes, drums, piano)
Tubby Hayes (tenor sax, clarinet, vibes)
Daryl Hayott (born 1960), (bass, drums, guitar, keyboards, trumpet)
Milt Jackson (vibes, guitar, piano)
Dick Johnson (1925–2010) (clarinet, alto saxophone, flute)
Pete Jolly (piano, accordion)
Rahsaan Roland Kirk (flute, nose flute, tenor saxophone, manzello, stritch, 'black mystery pipes', clarinet, gong, percussion)
Yusef Lateef (tenor sax, flute, oboe, many other woodwinds)
Marcus Miller (born 1959), (bass, bass clarinet, saxophone, keyboards, guitar)
Ray Nance (1913–76), (trumpet, violin)
Hermeto Pascoal (Keyboards, button accordion, melodica, saxophone, others)
Oscar Pettiford (bass, cello)
Danny Richmond (drums, saxophone)
Adrian Rollini (vibes, bass saxophone)
Willie Ruff (French horn, bass)
Helge Schneider (saxophones, clarinet, piano, trumpet, drums)
Tony Scott (clarinet, baritone sax, guitar, piano)
George Shearing (piano, accordion)
Eddie Shu (trumpet, tenor sax, harmonica)
Les Spann (flute, guitar)
Ira Sullivan (trumpet, saxophones, flute, flugelhorn, others)
John Surman (saxes, clarinets, piano, synthesizer)
Jean "Toots" Thielemans (guitar, harmonica)
Mel Torme (piano, drums)
Tommy Vig (vibraharp, drums, percussion)
Mike Zwerin (1930–2010) (trombone, bass trumpet)

Organ

Alice Coltrane (1937–2007)
Joey DeFrancesco
Barbara Dennerlein (Hammond-B3, synthesizer, real pipes)
Bill Doggett
Charles Earland (1941–99)
Dan Fogel (Hammond-B3 organ)
Larry Goldings
Richard "Groove" Holmes
Jack McDuff (1926–2001)
Amina Claudine Myers (born 1942)
John Patton
Trudy Pitts
Sun Ra (1914–93)
Melvin Rhyne
Ray Charles Robinson (1930–2004)(Piano)
Rhoda Scott (born 1938)
Shirley Scott (1934–2002)
Jimmy Smith
Lonnie Smith
Lonnie Liston Smith (born 1940)
Fats Waller (1904–43)
Harold Ivory Williams Jr. (organ, keyboard, piano, sitar)
Reuben Wilson
Larry Young

Piano
Main article: list of jazz pianists
Saxophone
Main article: list of jazz saxophonists
Trombone
Main article: list of jazz trombonists
Trumpet
Main article: List of jazz trumpeters
Flugelhorn

Art Farmer
Dmitri Matheny
Woody Shaw
Clark Terry (born 1920)
Kenny Wheeler

Vibraphone

Peter Appleyard
Roy Ayers
Larry Bunker
Gary Burton
Teddy Charles
Warren Chiasson
John Cocuzzi
Walt Dickerson
Tyree Glenn
Stefon Harris
Lionel Hampton
Tubby Hayes
Jay Hoggard
Bobby Hutcherson
Marjorie Hyams
Milt Jackson
Joe Locke
Max Miller
Steve Nelson
Red Norvo
Terry Pollard
Chuck Redd
Emil Richards
Joe Roland
Adrian Rollini
Jerry Tachoir
Cal Tjader
Tommy Vig
Dinah Washington
James Westfall

Violin
Further information: Musical styles (violin)

Billy Bang (born 1947)
Regina Carter (born 1966)
Ornette Coleman
Mark Feldman (born 1955)
Johnny Frigo
Stéphane Grappelli (1908–97)
Valentin Gregor (born 1963)
Joe Kennedy
Didier Lockwood (born 1956)
Ray Nance (1913–76)
Florin Niculescu (born 1967)
Jean-Luc Ponty (born 1942)
Stuff Smith (1909–67)
Ginger Smock (1920–95)
Eddie South (1904–62)
Joe Venuti (1903–78)
Noel Webb (born 1958)
Michael White (born 1933)
Claude Williams (1908–2004)

On another note, having clicked your link to have a listen, I gotta say I HATE your music. Sounds horrible man.

Dude I think you got mental problems. I lived in the UK and met some really weird people. Some Brits have quirky and odd habits. You are telling me you listened to all those artists? Good grief grow up and get a life man.

I am happy that you do not like my music, it is not intended for jazzicians.

However, it is liked by a prior organist at Westminster cathedral who holds a licentiateship from the RCM.

When I considered for .006 of a second whos opinion on my music to defer to, I realised you may be at a disadvantage, what with not having written any masses that have been accepted by the church like he has, for example.

But (like most jazz musicians) I am sure you know best.

Because he's a troll. He's having a little fun ruffling your feathers.

We keep him around because he's a semi-likeable troll and his jokes are occasionally somewhat funny

highly unlikely, RST has two and a quarter MILLION views and 5,600+ replies, folks do not usually go to this extent to humour trolls.


Stop trying to raise your post count up to mine with unfounded accusations. lol.

Hey, no offense intended! I did say "semi-likeable" and "occasionally funny"!

As for the post count, I don't think you're in any danger of losing that title to me.

No offence taken, It is not your fault that you typoed "semi likable" instead of "totally likeable chap" and "occasionally funny" instead of "immensely amusing to the point of incontinence"

You may have been distracted by jazz at the time of posting.

I was just thinking, to me Jazz is the only thing worse than the sound of a nagging women, and most men have the ability to detune their ears to the sound of a nagging women so we dont actually hear it anymore,

we learn to say things at the end of the nag like " oh yes how correct" or " Indeed" or "Okay, I will get onto it first thing in the morning"

If asked, even for lots of money we cannot repeat any of the nag, because we were not listening.

Some men lock their women up in the cellar and beat them to stop the nagging.

This does not work for jazz musicians, they will still carry on playing and improvising, and seem to thrive in dark places.

In order to enjoy Jazz you must be one of the [un]fortunate few who are anointed by a very rare type of cosmic ray. This rare cosmic ray contains stable particles of antimatter that manages to penetrate the earth's atmosphere intact. It typically aims straight for the atomic bull's eye on a victims forehead. Most of this jassy antimatter slices right through the cortex without any evidence of its visit. However, should that one rare event occur that disrupts a certain synapse in the auditory cortex the victim will become smitten with dissonance and will aimlessly and helplessly search for a stable chord for the remainder of his life.

None the worse for wear, victims will claim superior musicianship [Allegedly as a result of relentless hours spent developing and repeatedly playing obscure scales in a syncopated beat.] and befriend fellow victims in the dark recesses of shady nightclubs. There is no known cure. Probably because none has been sought.

Sometimes they can be quite the spectacle!
Witness: www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rxYw7Y45Eo

For those that cannot be bothered to follow a link , this is what Tribbs just posted.



What new shade of H E L L is this?

No, dont answer that, because what I will hear is this: (remember the sound of a girl nagging)

"Blah Blah Blah, technical merit, blah blah blah blahety blah blah, improvised procrastination, blah chord structure lead sheet blah blah blahety, long windy explanation of worth, blah blah structural integrity.... blah blah extremely awkward dominant 7th + 13th augmented 5th/Eb variation upon a nice sounding chord. blah blah infinitum."

And it still sounds like total shite to me.


In fact , after listening to that, I actually said "dont worry, I promise I will fix the hoover first thing in the morning"

(sent to Tartarus)

That video's great - the thing that struck me more than anything is that from the expressions on their faces and their body language, all three of those people appear to be in some considerable pain. I thought that the first cut to the guy with the six string bass was a great comedy moment - perfect timing.

I'm always wary when there are more than four strings on a bass. Just get a guitar already if you want to play solos.

The expressions on their faces were nothing compared to the expression on both my dogs face and my own face, we were in so much terrible pain also, fortunately , only for a fraction of the time that the performers were in pain for.

This was because the performers played for a much longer length of time than either myself or the dog could listen to.

we managed 14.7 seconds.

I just watched a bit more of that video. I'm sure that's Eric Idle on the drums. Maybe if you watch to the end they break into 'Always look on the bright side of life'.

You aint going to catch old Rossy that easy.

Thats allmost like saying "just give me the cash and i will go and get it for you" I have been around for longer than that.

Absolutely no chance whatsoever of me watching any more of that upsetting and spleen bursting noise ever again.

If anyone knows what a spleens purpose is, do let me know, I dont know what it does, am to lazy to google it and the only thing I can safely say is that jazz is detrimental to ones spleen/car/paraboots/dog/position in society/rectal elasticity.

For someone who purports to hate jazz, you sure spend ALOT of time talking about it. You must have a secret crush or something. Why are you wasting so much time writing, shouldn't you be practicing or playing. almost 3000 posts, geez, what a waste.

hey dude do you have any friends in real life? just askin' hit up Ronnie Scotts. you may find some there.