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New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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The new, Fall 2012 edition of Piano Buyer will be posted at www.pianobuyer.com in the next day or so. [carnival barker mode] New Ratings!!! New feature articles!!! Updated prices and manufacturer profiles!!! [/carnival barker mode]
Piano Industry Consultant Contributing Editor & Consultant - Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer Jasons Music Maryland/DC/No. VA Family Owned and Operated Since 1937. www.jasonsmusic.comMy postings, unless stated otherwise, are my personal opinions, not those of my clients.
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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09/05/12 04:35 PM
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Thanks for the heads up Steve - LOOKING FORWARD TO READING IT - SUCH A WONDERFUL RESOURCE !!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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09/05/12 08:09 PM
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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Steve, Is there a direct link to purchase hard copies?
"Imagine it in all its primatic colorings, its counterpart in our souls - our souls that are great pianos whose strings, of honey and of steel, the divisions of the rainbow set twanging, loosing on the air great novels of adventure!" - William Carlos Williams
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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09/05/12 08:15 PM
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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09/06/12 01:56 AM
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Thanks and look forward to!
Shigeru Kawai SK-3 Kawai CA95(In Haikou City)
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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09/06/12 09:06 AM
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Steve, Is there a direct link to purchase hard copies? Wait a few days then go to http://www.pianobuyer.com/buybooks.html.
Piano Industry Consultant Contributing Editor & Consultant - Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer Jasons Music Maryland/DC/No. VA Family Owned and Operated Since 1937. www.jasonsmusic.comMy postings, unless stated otherwise, are my personal opinions, not those of my clients.
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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09/06/12 10:22 AM
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Now I'm craving a candied apple and cotton candy!
Eric Gloo Piano Technician Certified Dampp-Chaser Installer Richfield Springs, New York
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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09/06/12 11:07 AM
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No changes, as far as I can tell, to the "Highest Quality" list. And U.S. Steinway isn't on it! (p.44)
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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09/06/12 11:38 AM
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I pre-ordered mine from Amazon last night.
Gary Essex EUP-111 at the mountains W. Hoffmann T-122 at the beach
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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09/09/12 08:27 PM
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I very much enjoyed the articles on boutique pianos and on regulation/voicing of performance pianos.
I have a question about navigating on each page. I have always had this problem for every online edition and I'm guessing it's due to some lack in basic computer skill.(I'm using the Flash version not that I know what that means.)
Anyway, when I enlarge the page to read it and am scrolling up and down to read the page, the page always seems to shrink back to its smaller size. So the result is while I'm reading a page I have to enlarge it several times while reading the page.
Can you tell what I'm doing wrong?
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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Hot off the press! Gotta love it!
PLU - Once you have enlarged the page, don't click on the wheel or you will change the page size. Just roll (scroll) the wheel and it will raise or lower the page without a change in size.
Marty in Minnesota
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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It seems to me that most makers wish to go out of business.
The price increases are breathtakingly absurd especially considering that most people have lower disposable income, not greater, with each successive year due to stagnant salaries and rising costs of food, utilities, gas, health care, and education.
Also it looks as if Larry Fine is backing away from the concept of SMP.
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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Can you tell what I'm doing wrong? If you are having trouble with the flash version, try the HTML version, a.k.a. normal webpage. You lose some of the cool flash features, but it navigates fine. On the HTML version, enlarging the size is "command +" on my mac and I think "control +" on my PC.
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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I just finished reading through the new edition, including re-reading a lot of the parts I have studied before. Nice job, Larry!
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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09/10/12 05:42 AM
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It seems to me that most makers wish to go out of business.
The price increases are breathtakingly absurd especially considering that most people have lower disposable income, not greater, with each successive year due to stagnant salaries and rising costs of food, utilities, gas, health care, and education. I also got the impression that the price increases were greater than usual although this was just a general impression. I got an even stronger impression that many makers are using MSRPs that are much higher than the SMPs. Also it looks as if Larry Fine is backing away from the concept of SMP. Did he write something specific about that in the latest issue? If not, I see zero evidence of any backing away from SMP. It's listed on every page of the piano pricing section.
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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Thanks ! Is the SMP the suggested maximum price for the wholesaler or retailer ?
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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Thanks ! Is the SMP the suggested maximum price for the wholesaler or retailer ? For the customer. To get the benefit from the SMP you should read the very clearly worded explanation on the pages before the SMPs for particular pianos are listed.
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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Stee, I notice that the "profesional" category of pianos had a short shelf life. Maybe the tables should be marked with an expiration date like dairy products. It would seem that Pianobuyer is now trying to tell me that Bohemia, W. Hoffmann (Tradition), Irmler (Professional)* Seiler (ES)*, Wilh. Steinberg (AC). and Vogel are better pianos than a Yamaha C or Kawai RX grand. "Good", "better", and "best" are fighting words, but I'm not sure they're in accordance with a snapshot of the market today.  I can only begin to imagine the tremendous effort that went into finding numerous samples of all these "Best" Intermediate grade rare birdss and the extensive hands-on testing that must have taken place before awarding them a "Best" designation.
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Re: New Fall 2012 Edition of Piano Buyer
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The "Professional Grade" category didn't have a short shelf life. I suggested to Larry that "Intermediate Grade" was a more descriptive name and it didn't carry the baggage of the word "professional". He agreed and the change was made.
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