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Dave Ferris, I could not agree with something more than that statement. Other than the one where I said I wAs PErfect.... That would indeed eliminate trolling. I've been in here about 6 years now and the worst posts have come from people with screwy names that pop in, post something and pop out again just to watch what is said after that. Wish Frank would implement that one. Jerry, not my real name in a fake world. haha
Jerry Groot RPT Piano Technicians Guild Grand Rapids, Michigan www.grootpiano.comWe love to play BF2.
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Good point about using our real names... Of course, in some cases, even those who use their real names can get rather nasty at times. And, it is a nice option to be anonymous here if we choose. Okay, my real name is Ricky Henson... no kin to Jim Henson, creator of the Muppets (though I wish I were ). Why I came up with a silly forum name like Rickster when I first joined Piano World I'll never know. When I took Spanish in high school my class name was Ricardo; maybe I should have went with Ricardo or perhaps Rikki Tikki Tavi. Rick
Piano enthusiast and amateur musician: "Treat others the way you would like to be treated". Yamaha C7. YouTube Channel
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Wow!
It seems that this forum has been infected with the same malady which is common in the Tuner/Tech forum.
Bickering - Sniping - Rudness - Cheap Shots - Diarrhea of the Mouth - One Upmanship - Being an Authority on Everything - Vendettas Hey Gang - Let's consider using some maners and being more civil.
When you feel the need to tighten the laces on your boxing gloves, take it into a PM sparring ring. Gosh, Marty, that sounds like a lotta fun. Where do I sign up? Aren't these moaning mona or in this case moaning marty threads really from people who can’t stand to be disagreed with? They try to cover it up with calls for civility, etc, but at the end of the day they’re pretty much in love with their own opinions and thoughts and those of their buddies and by god they’re just damn sick and tired of anyone disagreeing with them. Mike
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In response to the Dave Ferris post, my local on-line newspaper converted from allowing anonymous or pseudonym posts to requiring posters to use their facebook names. The resulting change in the quality of the posting was dramatic (and positive). I would like to see that on PW. Dave Koenig
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Wow!
It seems that this forum has been infected with the same malady which is common in the Tuner/Tech forum.
Bickering - Sniping - Rudness - Cheap Shots - Diarrhea of the Mouth - One Upmanship - Being an Authority on Everything - Vendettas Hey Gang - Let's consider using some maners and being more civil.
When you feel the need to tighten the laces on your boxing gloves, take it into a PM sparring ring. Gosh, Marty, that sounds like a lotta fun. Where do I sign up? Aren't these moaning mona or in this case moaning marty threads really from people who can’t stand to be disagreed with? They try to cover it up with calls for civility, etc, but at the end of the day they’re pretty much in love with their own opinions and thoughts and those of their buddies and by god they’re just damn sick and tired of anyone disagreeing with them. Mike Honestly Mike you cannot be serious. I can count less than 10 active members (people who have posted over time) since I have became a member of PW (in 1998) that have been rebuked by the owner of the site himself. Remember this? Mike,
If you were trying to derail this thread with your usual ranting, proffered as though they were expert advice and not just the personal opinions of someone who manages to find something negative in just about any post... you've succeeded. Congratulations, I'm locking this thread.
I'm tired of listening to you whine when you don't agree with someone on the forums, which seems to be most of the time. You are in my house when you are here, show some respect.
Consider that a warning, and know that I don't give multiple warnings. If you remember I coaxed Frank into NOT banning you around that time Mike. There are moments that I regret that action. The problem here is that sometimes you have good advice and sometimes you have good insight, but it is so filled with vitriol, bitterness, conspiracy theory, and suspicion (not just sometimes, but consistently). You tend to blur your perspective with unnecessary insults, inaccurate characterizations, and plain negativity that it is often difficult to get to any meat in your posts. Mike, I have to say clearly that in this thread... and in many others... you are the problem. I await your predictable insults and vitriol.
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If you remember I coaxed Frank into NOT banning you around that time Mike. There are moments that I regret that action.
Aw, shucks, Rich, I had no idea. I didn't know you cared. It's truly humbling to have a giant of the piano industry in my corner. I think I'm going to cry. Is lunch still on? Mike
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I await your predictable insults and vitriol. I enjoy Mark's brand of commentary. He doesn't make me cry... how about you?
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I await your predictable insults and vitriol. I enjoy Mark's brand of commentary. He doesn't make me cry... how about you? Birds of a feather... Rich, I couldn't agree with you more.
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That's us I guess, not here for the profit it can generate.
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That's us I guess, not here for the profit it can generate. I rest my case. Here is a prime example of the rudness and sarchasm which people seem to enjoy. And, I'm certainly not referring to Steve or Rich.
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If you remember I coaxed Frank into NOT banning you around that time Mike. There are moments that I regret that action.
Aw, shucks, Rich, I had no idea. I didn't know you cared. It's truly humbling to have a giant of the piano industry in my corner. I think I'm going to cry. Is lunch still on? Mike Actually Mike, my memory is not what it used to be. I checked my old PM's and I coaxed Frank and the mods. to not ban "TheSockPuppet", although I would have done the same for you. Your posts DO usually have good content. Also, I would still enjoy meeting you for lunch. In my experience when people are face to face and speak directly many things are communicated differently. Even if you communicated in the same style it would be different in person. I think I would get along with you jst fine in person. If you are ever in the Philly area, I would love to treat you to lunch. If I am ever in your neighborhood, I hope you would extend that courtesy to me there as well.
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Well, I said I enjoy Mark and his far out opinions, and was attacked. If you don't like my posts dude, don't read them. That's us I guess, not here for the profit it can generate. I rest my case. Here is a prime example of the rudness and sarchasm which people seem to enjoy. And, I'm certainly not referring to Steve or Rich. Well, I said I enjoy Mark and his far out opinions and was attacked. If you don't like my posts dude, don't read them.
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Guapo, it's Mike and not Mark... unless you know something we don’t.
I think Mike Carr knows he's on thin ice here with Frank. Maybe he enjoys living on the edge, I don't know. I too enjoy his post most of time, when he is not after his opponent with a vengeance. It is not about disagreeing here, it is how we express ourselves when we disagree… I also enjoy reading his stories when he’s in a good mood and in the mood to write. He has his strengths and weaknesses, just like the rest of us.
I suggest everyone go ahead and express themselves and get it out of your system… we are a community here, a family, if you will, and Frank is like the head of our household... this is his forum. From time to time, even family members get irritated and aggravated at each other, but we should still respect each other.
Mike, you are not banned yet, and like Rich, I’d hate to see that happen. Only you can avoid that action…
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Rickster, sorry for the name mistake and no I do not know the gentleman. It just racks my rectum to be jumped by the dealer clique for simply expressing my opinion, one without any snarking.
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Well, I said I enjoy Mark and his far out opinions and was attacked. If you don't like my posts dude, don't read them. If you don't like my thread dude, don't read it!
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Years ago after a recital of Chopin Etudes at the Dorothy Chandler, I was able to shake Maurizio Pollini's hand after he came from the backstage area to greet his admirers. I said , "hey nice job on the tudes dude " ! Boy did he give me a strange look. I thought, what's up with that ?
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There is never any need to be impolite, even when using pseudonyms on an internet forum. In response to the Dave Ferris post, my local on-line newspaper converted from allowing anonymous or pseudonym posts to requiring posters to use their facebook names. The resulting change in the quality of the posting was dramatic (and positive). I would like to see that on PW. Dave Koenig Some of us are not on Facebook!
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Guapo, it's Mike and not Mark... unless you know something we don’t.
I think Mike Carr knows he's on thin ice here with Frank. Maybe he enjoys living on the edge, I don't know. I too enjoy his post most of time, when he is not after his opponent with a vengeance. It is not about disagreeing here, it is how we express ourselves when we disagree… I also enjoy reading his stories when he’s in a good mood and in the mood to write. He has his strengths and weaknesses, just like the rest of us.
I suggest everyone go ahead and express themselves and get it out of your system… we are a community here, a family, if you will, and Frank is like the head of our household... this is his forum. From time to time, even family members get irritated and aggravated at each other, but we should still respect each other.
Mike, you are not banned yet, and like Rich, I’d hate to see that happen. Only you can avoid that action…
Rick Ok, I just have to get this out! Frank is head of the household (you said, Rick!) and he has never, EVER given me an allowance! And, that is a fact, NOT an opinion . There, I feel better.
I don't care too much for money. For money can't buy me love. -the Beatles
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I've found that to be true too, greeting in person verses anonymous or even just on the net. In person, people are always nicer, well, most people anyway...
Jerry Groot RPT Piano Technicians Guild Grand Rapids, Michigan www.grootpiano.comWe love to play BF2.
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