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#1940144 - 08/10/12 02:37 AM SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT  
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guys i need help again

i found this plain looking schimmel in our old country philippines. schimmel piano is incredible and i was surprised finding one in our place with a low price but i was disappointed when i found the seal

it was quite differnt from the seals i know from schimmel but in the seal i found the two images of the seals i know in the bottom of the seal of the unverified schimmel upright

would the techies and specialists verify this schimmel upright

here are the pictures

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ok there are the pics
can you help me pls

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#1940145 - 08/10/12 02:41 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]  
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and guys if you can tell me what model is this?

#1940148 - 08/10/12 03:04 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]  
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Looks like it needs a fair bit of work - whether it's a Schimmel or not. This might turn out to be an expensive "cheap" piano.


#1940166 - 08/10/12 04:41 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]  
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Looks like a Fake: wrong seal, muffler rail construction, case....

Parts of the case are similiar to the model 112/5 E, but only parts.

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#1940196 - 08/10/12 07:30 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: Gregor]  
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hey gregor i found this pic of the model you told the seal looks like the same. try to compare

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#1940227 - 08/10/12 09:24 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]  
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I wasn't familiar with the name "Handok", so I Googled it. Here is what I found. Not sure if this helps you determine if it is a fake. At least we know it wasn't made in Germany.

Handok pianos, which ceased piano production in 1995. were manufactured by the Handok (Korean-German) Piano Manufacturing Company. Handok (president Woon-Kwang Paek), founded in 1972. began by building piano components: ACTION and HAMMER head, In 1974 Handok established a joint-venture enterprise with Saito Action Manufacturing Company in Hamamatsu. Japan, and manufactured actions exclusively for export In 1976 Handok acquired an agreement for technical cooperation from German piano-maker SCHIMMEL and building upright pianos of the German Schimmel models; the agreement with Schimmel expired in 1986. Handok produced only upright pianos, and its pianos were sold mainly on the export market. Up to 1989 Handok produced about two thousand pianos per year. However, the 1990-1991 production figures decreased to only about one thousand pianos because at that time the company was in the process of moving into a new plant In 1995 Handok ceased its piano production entirely


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#1940250 - 08/10/12 10:13 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]  
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#1940266 - 08/10/12 10:42 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]  
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to make it clear
handok created this piano or only its action

#1940291 - 08/10/12 11:39 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]  
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Philippines has a lot of fake German makes and I feel sorry for the people buying them.

My wife is from there and has seen this happening quite a bit when visiting the occasional store when there. The sales people often don't know the difference and are simply told by the boss.

Buyers beware...

Norbert tiki


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#1940300 - 08/10/12 11:53 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: Norbert]  
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hey thanks nobert
for that

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#1940302 - 08/10/12 11:55 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]  
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#1940336 - 08/10/12 01:15 PM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]  
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somehow i heard a handok piano and it sounds quite poor so i was just nervous to know whether this piano is good or not


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