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Want to learn to tune a piano #618746
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I did some searches but I haven't reached the posts I want to know. Sorry if this is a repeat. I'd like to learn to know how to tune a piano. Is there a class to take? They probably will cover what tools to get + the ETD ( confused ) device. I'm just a beginner with music, period! In a few members of the family, we have older pianos sitting around, it would be great to be about to get them close to be in tuned.

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano #618748
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There really has been a lot of discussion on this in the past, no offense intended. Maybe you need some different search terms:

Try "Randy Potter course" and "Reblitz book." Just to get you started.

If you're serious, be prepared to put in more study and practice than you're probably thinking at present.

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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano #618749
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Thank you for your response. I will look into the terms you suggested. I tried a few of my own terms but they didn't come up that helpful. frown

I will give it some serious thoughts because I'm not sure if I will have the opportunities to tune enough pianos to be good at it.

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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano #618750
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This is definitely a Frequently Asked Question. But I looked in the Tuner-technicians FAQ and there is no thread on this subject yet. So I just spent a fair it of time compiling information and writing a post in that Forum. Wouldn't you know it - I had about a dozen windows open all over my desktop and accidentally closed the wrong one - oops - there went my carefully crafted know-it-all answer. Dang

But actually, I got all the information from the archives here. Click on the "search" link at the top of any page. Type in the key words: "learn to tune piano" or "learning piano tuning".

I got 83 threads and was able to pull out around ten that had all the information a person needs to head off in the right direction.

So try that and good luck.

And maybe you could be persuaded to make the appropriate posting in the Tuner-Technicians FAQ Forum???

Re: Want to learn to tune a piano #618751
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Hahaha, Jurgen, you should post that one in "Don't you hate it when..." That's maddening! Or, a computer crash or, lightening and thunder storm and poof, powers out stuff's gone...


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Or:
someone asking the same old question for the zillionth time... laugh

But it is not their fault. At least not directly. Nowadays everyone expects instant results, an immediate response. Everyone thinks their issues are so unique and pressing...
Research? Digging for an answer? Nawww - not me! frown

Pass the spoon and fill it up with the good stuff! :rolleyes:

This question seriously deserves to be in the Tuner-Tech FAQ.
I nominate you, Jerry... thumb

Outa here - it's been a long, hard day... so please forgive any steppingon delicate toes shocked

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I'm sorry that I put it in the wrong category. In all honesty, I did some search and I got very much what you suggested, Supply. Most of the posts weren't what I hope for, so I posted one... I thought maybe I get lucky and got a good response directly.

By all means, if you have the connection at this site and able to move this to Tuner-Tech FAQ is OK by me. smile

Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Poisy] #1934943
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There are many ways to learn to tune a piano. And there are many different levels of success. Don't let anyone tell you, you can't do it without years of training. I teach piano tuning. I know. With good instruction, and musical ability and mechanical aptitude, you can learn to tune pianos fairly quickly. Some people will disagree but I have seen it. But I believe it is imperative that you have an exceptional instructor. Avoid correspondence courses without having personal instruction from a highly qualified teacher with experience teaching piano tuning. It can be done and it is such a rewarding skill, you should try to learn it if it interests you.


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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Mark Cerisano] #1934976
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Mark,

Do you realize that you are responding to a thread from April of 2028?


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You mean 2008.

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(OOPS) But then in this barrage of salesmanship, he might have searched for posts yet to come.

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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Poisy] #1934988
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Jbyron,

You post was much better before you edited it!


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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Poisy] #1934990
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Besides that Mark, is against forum rules for you to be promoting your own business as you are doing. I also completely disagree as will others here, that learning to tune pianos WELL is not nearly as simple as you make it seem. Just because you happe to teach a tuning course.... Better go back and re-read Piano World rules and regulations....


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Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
Jbyron,

You post was much better before you edited it!


Hi Marty, I already forgot what I said! What did I write?


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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Jbyron] #1934996
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Jbyron,

Kinda sorta the same as what Jerry just said. I think we are all getting tired of the Mark persons self promotion.


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Oh yeah. Along the lines of what Jerry said. I disagree with what Mark is selling, I mean saying here.



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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Poisy] #1935034
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I apologize if it seemed too much that I was selling something. Was it my signature that made you feel that way? I tried very hard not to appear that way and I tried to keep my comments focused on the question, which was how to learn to tune a piano. I was trying to emphasize the importance of getting a good instructor. I guess I should have added mentor to that list. I responded to this post because I thought other people who wanted to learn to tune pianos, might read it and I was really talking to them. Again, I apologize and in the future, I will try to abide by the rules.


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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Poisy] #1935098
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Well at last you are not hiding, so may be it can be seen as a bit of self promotion, but I would tend to agree that when understanding the process correctly, having good musical ability and good tactile ability, one with a tad of gift can be a reasonable tuner (on easy pianos) after one year training (and begin to obtain some results sooner)

To begin to tune at a professional level is another matter, as pianos differ, and one have to gain lot of experience, plus develop his taste for tone, this can take years and imply to listen to music played on different instruments, old and recent, by different pianists, trying to work on the best instruments available, for the best pianists available, etc...

Learning to keep his own piano in an acceptable tuning shape is probably possible if well instructed, but I would say if you have a very good piano, only an experienced tuner will make it sing .

Also keeping regulations and voicing in shape is a speciality, particularly knowing to do that in a very short time window, as it is necessary in music schools.

Even here where the tuner's level is generally decent, only a very small percentage of professionals know how to react in front of a slightly un regulated piano, or a begin of hammer wear.
Maintenance...

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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Poisy] #1935168
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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Jerry Groot RPT] #1936138
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Originally Posted by Jerry Groot RPT
Besides that Mark, is against forum rules for you to be promoting your own business as you are doing. I also completely disagree as will others here, that learning to tune pianos WELL is not nearly as simple as you make it seem. Just because you happe to teach a tuning course.... Better go back and re-read Piano World rules and regulations....


Jerry, I have only recently started posting and thought I was doing something wrong when Jbyron and Marty responded so sarcastically to my post. After apologizing, I read the rules and it appears I have done nothing wrong. I have in no way advertised my school except to put my full disclosure in my signature, which I am supposed to do. And to mention it only in respect to the specific question at hand and to give my opinion more qualification. Also, I don't just "happen" to teach a tuning course. Go to my site and read the reviews. I think you'll get the picture.

Also, I would like to direct attention to some of the quotes I did find in the rules and if someone could identify where I have erred, that would be appreciated:

"If you are or were a piano industry professional, please identify yourself as such so people will know the source of your "expertise".

I think I have done that correctly

"We do not condone members hiding behind a veil of anonymity so they can push their own agenda, promote their own business or products, or create negative posts about their competitors and/or competitive products."

Can you explain how I was hiding? How did I hide to promote my business? Or better yet, how can one answer a question that deals with a subject they are an expert at, without inherently promoting themselves as that very expert. Also, I believe this rules deals specifically with the hiding part, not the promoting part. I've seen more than a few people doing that blatantly without the kind of backlash that I received.

"Stop the Self-Promotion!
It is NOT ACCEPTABLE for you to create posts thinly disguised as an innocent discussion when in fact they are nothing more than a promotion for your business."

Ah, here is the meat, eh? Was my post thinly disguised? Is it nothing more than a promotion for my business (which by the way is 90% piano tuning) or was it

"...a genuine effort to be honest and helpful"

Full quote:"If you make a genuine effort to be honest and helpful, you just may pick up some business because people trust you. That's fine, I have no problem with that."

I offer that my intention was for the latter.

And finally, jByron and Minnesota Marty seemed to have fun at my expense so I thought they should reread this rule:

"Do not be mean-spirited or decidely negative."

Thanks for the opportunity to present my point of view. I hope I have done it coherently. I love teaching and I would like to use my expertise to help others without being attacked.

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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Poisy] #1936146
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No problem with me, I understand one can be pushed different ways to write about the subjects that are important to him.







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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Poisy] #1936259
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I agree with you, Mark. I have been meaning to say that these other guys should cut you some slack on that. Since I know you personally, I know that you are not here to "advertise" your piano technology teaching any more than any other piano technician is here to promote their services as piano technicians simply because they are in business to do that.

There have been a few people who have done just that. In replying to a person who inquired about how to learn to tune pianos, they disguised themselves as a member of the public but put in a link to their own piano tuning school website! That did cross the line and they were caught doing it.

As far as I am concerned, you are welcome here and this would be a good opportunity for us to discuss the differences in opinion that we have about hammer technique as you have wanted to do. I know that you could make some very valuable contributions to this forum as you are an example of a very highly skilled and experienced piano technician who runs a very successful and multifaceted business.


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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Mark Cerisano] #1936282
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Originally Posted by Mark Cerisano, RPT
Originally Posted by Jerry Groot RPT
Besides that Mark, is against forum rules for you to be promoting your own business as you are doing. I also completely disagree as will others here, that learning to tune pianos WELL is not nearly as simple as you make it seem. Just because you happe to teach a tuning course.... Better go back and re-read Piano World rules and regulations....


Jerry, I have only recently started posting and thought I was doing something wrong when Jbyron and Marty responded so sarcastically to my post. After apologizing, I read the rules and it appears I have done nothing wrong. I have in no way advertised my school except to put my full disclosure in my signature, which I am supposed to do. And to mention it only in respect to the specific question at hand and to give my opinion more qualification. Also, I don't just "happen" to teach a tuning course. Go to my site and read the reviews. I think
you'll get the picture.

Also, I would like to direct attention to some of the quotes I did find in the rules and if someone could identify where I have erred, that would be appreciated:

"If you are or were a piano industry professional, please identify yourself as such so people will know the source of your "expertise".

I think I have done that correctly

"We do not condone members hiding behind a veil of anonymity so they can push their own agenda, promote their own business or products, or create negative posts about their competitors and/or competitive products."

Can you explain how I was hiding? How did I hide to promote my business? Or better yet, how can one answer a question that deals with a subject they are an expert at, without inherently promoting themselves as that very expert. Also, I believe this rules deals specifically with the hiding part, not the promoting part. I've seen more than a few people doing that blatantly without the kind of backlash that I received.

"Stop the Self-Promotion!
It is NOT ACCEPTABLE for you to create posts thinly disguised as an innocent discussion when in fact they are nothing more than a promotion for your business."

Ah, here is the meat, eh? Was my post thinly disguised? Is it nothing more than a promotion for my business (which by the way is 90% piano tuning) or was it

"...a genuine effort to be honest and helpful"

Full quote:"If you make a genuine effort to be honest and helpful, you just may pick up some business because people trust you. That's fine, I have no problem with that."

I offer that my intention was for the latter.

And finally, jByron and Minnesota Marty seemed to have fun at my expense so I thought they should reread this rule:

"Do not be mean-spirited or decidely negative."

Thanks for the opportunity to present my point of view. I hope I have done it coherently. I love teaching and I would like to use my expertise to help others without being attacked.



Hi Mark,

It appeared to me Mark, and others, I'm not the only one here, that you were intentionally looking around for threads that were inquiring about learning to do piano tuning even if they were 4 or more years old and then posting answers to them. Answers that were answered over 4 years ago already. wink

Obviously, your signature line says that is what you do and because of that signature line, it gave it away that you were looking, it seemed to me, to promote yourself in one way or another. If others posted something similar to what I did, Bob is one, then I'm not the only person that thought the same thing...

I'm not attacking you. I was stating what I thought I saw you doing ever so sneakly.... Why not advertise on Piano World instead? smile

Plus, you stated that piano tuning was more or less, easy to learn. It is not. We will continue to disagree on that one. I do not recall meeting you yet so I really do not know your true motives but I do know Bill B.


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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Mark Cerisano] #1936342
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Mark,

What caught my attention was that you suddenly appeared, with a barrage of postings in lots of threads, everywhere you could possibly get your signature line displayed. Did it break any rules? No, it did not.

What I particularily noticed was that you were responding to threads which have been dormant for years. There were short threads, authored by individuals with minimal posting history, who apparently had their question answered years ago, and are no longer active at PW. Others were more extensive. Yet, there are active threads going on now in 2012, not from 2008, on exactly the same topic. This very thread is an example.

It took a determined effort to search out and resurrect those threads. For what purpose? The answer to that question was apparent to more than a few of us.

I did not have fun at your expense. I expressed my annoyance. That is neither mean-spirited nor decidedly negative.

If a hypothetical thread, about how to fix a squeeky pedal, had appeared in 2006 and was answered at the time, would it be logical to dig out that thread and post an answer to someone who, long ago, had the problem fixed? Is that particular pedal still squeeking? Is it worth a reply? Not at all. If the same question were posed today, would it be worth a reply? Most certainly.

Actually, I responded to you in a "dead" thread also, but you didn't reply to me there. You chose an active thread. Why?


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Marty and Jerry, I have good answers for all your points but I am here to focus on sharing the knowledge I have gained from my years of teaching. So I will not take the time to answer you. If you, Marty and Jerry, were to give me the benefit of the doubt, you would probably be able to figure out those answers for yourself. Until the moderator tells me otherwise, I will not be changing my behaviour.

BTW, Bill, thank you for your kind words. I look forward to sharing and discussing with you on this forum and elsewhere, this fascinating topic.

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Mark :

Don't be too surprised with the negativity and suspicion ... being a new poster here you tend to be "on trial", until such times as your posts demonstrate competence to the more experienced and accepted members. wink



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Originally Posted by Johnkie
Mark :

Don't be too surprised with the negativity and suspicion ... being a new poster here you tend to be "on trial", until such times as your posts demonstrate competence to the more experienced and accepted members. wink



...even then the bar is pretty high. You first need to figure out a way to regulate a spinet to get higher repetition speed than a grand. Then tune an obscure historic temperament that sounds better than ET. After that, you need to be able to post 3 sound clips of your "special" tuning in musical context with a minimum 2 paragraph verbal accolade using no less than 5 positive descriptive adjectives to suggest what listeners ought to be hearing, in case they don't have a mind of their own. This last part must be done with a single mouse click, and redone with a different musical piece, every time the topic moves to page 2.


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Re: Want to learn to tune a piano [Re: Poisy] #1936504
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Love it Emmery ......... sooooo right mate !!!

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And then, after all of that???? You HAVE TO argue and debate about for 350 pages! smile


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