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#1935798 - 08/01/12 11:58 AM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: PossumES8SP280]  
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[quote=Possum P95]
...azpianodude in his review said the PX350 has 4 speakers vs 2 on the PX150; but I have not seen that it has 4 speakers anywhere else, and given the output watts are the same I have a hard time believing this.
Mike from Casio, could you confirm whether there are 4 speakers?...[quote=Possum P95]


The 350 specs are here...http://www.casiomusicgear.com/products/menu_privia/PX-350BK
Speaker specs show 4 total:
(13 cm x 6 cm <rectangular>) x 2
Tweeter 5 cm x 2
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#1935808 - 08/01/12 12:23 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: playliszt]  
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Originally Posted by playliszt
[quote=Possum P95]
...azpianodude in his review said the PX350 has 4 speakers vs 2 on the PX150; but I have not seen that it has 4 speakers anywhere else, and given the output watts are the same I have a hard time believing this.
Mike from Casio, could you confirm whether there are 4 speakers?...[quote=Possum P95]


The 350 specs are here...http://www.casiomusicgear.com/products/menu_privia/PX-350BK
Speaker specs show 4 total:
(13 cm x 6 cm <rectangular>) x 2
Tweeter 5 cm x 2
Amplifiers 8 W + 8 W


This seems to be the same as the 130/330 - my 330 has two small speakers on top facing the player and the two main speakers facing out the back, even though the power is the same.

#1935811 - 08/01/12 12:31 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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The PX-130 & PX-330 do not have four speakers. The cabinet is simply open in two areas. The new PX-350 has four speakers....the addition of 2 tweeters on the front. The speakers on both the new PX-150 and PX-350 are dramatically different.


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#1935847 - 08/01/12 01:38 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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Are you sure? PX-330 manual p.57:
Speakers [13cm x 6cm (rectanuglar)] x 2 + o/ 5cm x 2 (Output: 8.0W + 8.0W)

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#1935873 - 08/01/12 02:39 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: Vectistim]  
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;-)

It's possible I am. I'll try to check into it. Either way, the PX-350 is an entirely different system.


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#1935978 - 08/01/12 06:24 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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Wow, this is getting to be one heck of a thread. Got a question for Mike Martin:

The 150 to the 350, similar to the 130 and 330 whereby; they both have the same main core piano sounds and the main difference is all the added voices, bells and whistles? I want to know if the construction quality, mechanics of the action for the 150 is the same as the 350. I only want high quality piano sounds which is why I bought the 130 over the 330.

By the way; Even though I bought a CP5, I still have and love my PX130 and I hate to say that I almost like the action better. I don't intend to sell it. I just wanted a DP that was up in the high-end of the professional stage models. I kind of wish I had waited to try out the 150 first.


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#1936007 - 08/01/12 07:21 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: RUSS SHETTLE]  
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Originally Posted by RUSS SHETTLE
The 150 to the 350, similar to the 130 and 330 whereby; they both have the same main core piano sounds and the main difference is all the added voices, bells and whistles? I want to know if the construction quality, mechanics of the action for the 150 is the same as the 350. I only want high quality piano sounds which is why I bought the 130 over the 330.

Yes, I would like to know this too.

Here's hoping the PX-3 reboot (if/when it comes, PX-3.5?) will have all of the updated and unlocked improvements of the PX-850.

Kinda weird how almost every potentially gig-worthy (lightweight & portable) DP is either half broken or dumbed down to the point of worthlessness. Looking at the market you'd almost think there was a worldwide ban on keyboard players in live settings. <Cue avalanche of derogatory pianist jokes>

#1936013 - 08/01/12 07:39 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: dewster]  
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Originally Posted by dewster
Here's hoping the PX-3 reboot (if/when it comes, PX-3.5?) will have all of the updated and unlocked improvements of the PX-850.

I'm sure Mike so regrets using the word "unlocked"... ;-)

#1936031 - 08/01/12 08:44 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: anotherscott]  
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Originally Posted by anotherscott
I'm sure Mike so regrets using the word "unlocked"... ;-)

Yeah, he probably didn't intend for it to sound like "nice little DP you got there - shame if compiler directives were to cripple it" but if you are a coder in any sense it's difficult not to read "unlocked features" that way.

#1936034 - 08/01/12 08:50 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: dewster]  
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Originally Posted by dewster
Originally Posted by anotherscott
I'm sure Mike so regrets using the word "unlocked"... ;-)

Yeah, he probably didn't intend for it to sound like "nice little DP you got there - shame if compiler directives were to crippled it" but if you are a coder in any sense it's difficult not to read "unlocked features" that way.

I think it was more marketing-speak than tech-speak. You know, more like "putting more RAM into your computer unlocks the power of your pentium processor!" It doesn't mean some ability was intentionally "locked" per se, but rather, with additional hardware, the processor is capable of doing more.

But I agree that, when the next version of a PX-3 appears (i.e. a new "professional, yet portable" model), I hope it will contain the best piano sound Casio has to offer.

#1936360 - 08/02/12 01:13 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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Everywhere on the PX-350 spec pages it says "options SP-33 three pedal" but the current model number is SP-32 ... so there's a new attachment for the CS-67 stand, then? (Ah, and then I see CS-67 on one page, and CS-67P on another ... but I think that's the same thing.)

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#1936371 - 08/02/12 01:27 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: xorbe]  
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Originally Posted by xorbe
Everywhere on the PX-350 spec pages it says "options SP-33 three pedal" but the current model number is SP-32 ... so there's a new attachment for the CS-67 stand, then? (Ah, and then I see CS-67 on one page, and CS-67P on another.)


The new models use the same CS-67 stand. Not sure where the P came from. The SP-33 pedal is new and different than the SP-32


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#1936373 - 08/02/12 01:44 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: Mike_Martin]  
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Originally Posted by Mike_Martin
The new models use the same CS-67 stand. Not sure where the P came from.

(3rd line from the bottom here:)
http://www.casiomusicgear.com/products/menu_privia/PX-350BK

Can we get any details on how the action compares on the 350 vs 330? I spent a lot of time looking at the 330 and Yamahas with GHS/GH today. Did Casio reduce key bounce? Move pivot point back? Keys lighter or heavier or about the same?

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#1936725 - 08/03/12 02:06 AM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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It's Mike Martin himself! Posted 3 hours ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc0hl4JnDeM

#1936767 - 08/03/12 06:57 AM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: xorbe]  
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#1936804 - 08/03/12 09:36 AM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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Is it that lightweight DPs have an effect on the way the keys feel. The Yamaha GH3/GH keys feel more secure and don't move sideways. There is a wobbly effect in the PX330 keys as well as in the Yamaha GHS key action.

#1936844 - 08/03/12 11:40 AM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: bsl100]  
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Originally Posted by bsl100
Is it that lightweight DPs have an effect on the way the keys feel. The Yamaha GH3/GH keys feel more secure and don't move sideways. There is a wobbly effect in the PX330 keys as well as in the Yamaha GHS key action.


Yeah the P155 keys do, but it also adds keyboard size plus 15 pounds over the P95 (and PX330). I guess we have to wait 2 months to hear end-user reports about 330 vs 350 keys.

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#1936893 - 08/03/12 01:22 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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I hope a little bit earlier...at least from insiders / beta testers / exhibit visitors.

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I hope a little bit earlier...at least from insiders / beta testers / exhibit visitors.

#1937246 - 08/04/12 10:14 AM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: Mike_Martin]  
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Originally Posted by Mike_Martin
Originally Posted by xorbe

Everywhere on the PX-350 spec pages it says "options SP-33 three pedal" but the current model number is SP-32 ... so there's a new attachment for the CS-67 stand, then? (Ah, and then I see CS-67 on one page, and CS-67P on another.)


The new models use the same CS-67 stand. Not sure where the P came from. The SP-33 pedal is new and different than the SP-32



I will be probably upgrading from the PX 330 to the PX 350.

Mike, would it be possible to use the SP 32 with the PX-350?

#1937352 - 08/04/12 03:00 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: mg64]  
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Originally Posted by mg64

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The PX-850 is targeted for October.



Thanks, that's just about the time I'll have the money for it. laugh Hope it's gonna be a nice DP.

#1937678 - 08/05/12 11:23 AM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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Hi everyone,

I just found this release from Japan. Looks like, as expected really, Casio is releasing new Celvianos as well. (At least in Japan for now)

http://www.japantoday.com/category/new-products/view/digital-piano-series

I've been lurking this forum for a while now looking for my first DP. Can't wait to hear reviews of these new Casio's once they're out.

-Kevin

#1937684 - 08/05/12 11:35 AM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: kmf123kmf]  
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Originally Posted by kmf123kmf
Hi everyone,

I just found this release from Japan. Looks like, as expected really, Casio is releasing new Celvianos as well. (At least in Japan for now)

http://www.japantoday.com/category/new-products/view/digital-piano-series

I've been lurking this forum for a while now looking for my first DP. Can't wait to hear reviews of these new Casio's once they're out.

-Kevin


This is great news....thanks for posting it!

Cheers,

K.


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#1937741 - 08/05/12 01:34 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: xorbe]  
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I would like to know more specifics on what has been done to improve the action also. In an earlier post Mike said the action had been improved over the previous models, but could not say what specifically had been done. He also said side to side motion had been reduced. This was a common complaint on the Privia PX-x30 models with keys rubbing against adjacent keys and wobbling. From the sounds of his post the key texture that has been added to all models was also improved. I am looking forward to playing these new models when they come out to see how much better they are. Mike, any chance of getting info from Tokyo on what they did to improve the action?

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#1937780 - 08/05/12 03:20 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: galaxy4t]  
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it's kind of interesting to know from an academic viewpoint, but when you get down to it, all that really matters is getting your own fingers on it!

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Originally Posted by galaxy4t
I would like to know more specifics on what has been done to improve the action also...any chance of getting info from Tokyo on what they did to improve the action?

it's kind of interesting to know from an academic viewpoint, but when you get down to it, all that really matters is getting your own fingers on it!

#1938381 - 08/06/12 06:10 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: mg64]  
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Originally Posted by mg64
Mike, would it be possible to use the SP 32 with the PX-350?


This question, and if not, SP-32 goes for $50 street pricing -- will SP-33 retail for the same?

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Originally Posted by xorbe
Originally Posted by mg64
Mike, would it be possible to use the SP 32 with the PX-350?


This question, and if not, SP-32 goes for $50 street pricing -- will SP-33 retail for the same?
I expect a price bump in the wholesale so probably a bump to the street price, too. We'll see where it levels off.


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#1938460 - 08/06/12 08:21 PM Re: CASIO releases 4 new models [Re: kmf123kmf]  
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Originally Posted by kmf123kmf
Hi everyone,

I just found this release from Japan. Looks like, as expected really, Casio is releasing new Celvianos as well. (At least in Japan for now)

http://www.japantoday.com/category/new-products/view/digital-piano-series

I've been lurking this forum for a while now looking for my first DP. Can't wait to hear reviews of these new Casio's once they're out.

-Kevin


Gah! Casio is killing me! All the new Celviano's are up on the Japanese site.

http://casio.jp/emi/products/celviano/ (Google Translate does a passable job if you don't read Japanese)

No trace of them in North America or Europe though.


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Do a little research here and you'll see the early mentions of PX-135 in Japan...and that model never made it to the US. 10 months later, it's the PX-150!

If I had to guess, I'd hope these models make it hear in 6-7 months at the very earliest. And no doubt with a price increase similar to the new Privias. Make your decisions accordingly. wink


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