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Re: New(ish) AvantGrand video EssBrace #1930715 07/22/12 02:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,565 Suffolk, United Kingdom E EssBrace OP 4000 Post Club Member
OP EssBrace 4000 Post Club Member E Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,565 Suffolk, United Kingdom	It's shocking isn't it?! The CP1 key I mean. It reflects badly on Yamaha but it's more an indictment of the "machine" made by the marketing people. They tell us wood is better. We want wooden keys. Yamaha gives us wooden keys....

Re: New(ish) AvantGrand video EssBrace #1930751 07/22/12 03:06 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 14,439 A bog north of Pittsburgh, PA MacMacMac Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
MacMacMac Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 14,439 A bog north of Pittsburgh, PA	Don't fret. The wood paneling is just for appearance. Even if the key were solid wood it would make no difference. The key is only about five inches long. So, whether wood or plastic, all that matters is the total mass.

Re: New(ish) AvantGrand video EssBrace #1930766 07/22/12 03:30 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 450 United States K kippesc Full Member
kippesc Full Member K Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 450 United States	I agree. It's more stable and precise, not using wood, especially on gigging instruments. Steinway B Yamaha AvantGrand N2 Roland RD-700NX

Re: New(ish) AvantGrand video kippesc #1930878 07/22/12 06:59 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,416 Salem 36251 1000 Post Club Member
36251 1000 Post Club Member Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,416 Salem	Originally Posted by kippesc I've been staring at this picture all morning (simply because I haven't closed my browser) while monitoring this thread. I'm going to re-post this picture because, for me, it marks the nadir of DP marketing dissembling (wait, maybe I mean "zenith"). (That's the inside of a CP1, which has nothing to do with an AG, but it does relate to the topic of Yamaha marketing. Just to be clear.) Okay. I've gotten it out of my system. Now back to my project to precisely tweak Pianoteq to sound like my AP. ;-) I thought that the wood keys on DP actions would make the bottom-out feel a little softer. Seeing this would seem to tell me the wood is only there to make the key heavier? I wouldn't be too happy if I owned a CP1 or CP5 and have to move those beasts and the keys weren't even all wood. That pic adds another sub-group of Hybrid. My other request would be to see other DPs like the Kawai that comes with wood keys. Are they all wood? AvantGrand N2 \| ES520 \| Gallien-Krueger MK & MP https://soundcloud.com/pete36251

Re: New(ish) AvantGrand video 36251 #1930890 07/22/12 07:22 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 19,097 Hamamatsu, Japan Kawai James Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Kawai James Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 19,097 Hamamatsu, Japan	Originally Posted by 36251 My other request would be to see other DPs like the Kawai that comes with wood keys. Are they all wood? Yes. Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player.