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Re: Which living pianists write piano transcription or [Re: Danielsan] #1927887
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Originally Posted by Danielsan
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Check out Esa Pekka Salonen's work. He's nuts. Amazing modern works.



He's not considered to be a pianist, AFAIK.


You're a ridiculous bunch of people of this forum. Have to "correct" everything and rarely in a nice way.

He's a conductor, but he wrote a bunch of piano works. Gloria plays some of them. He wrote a work called Dichotomie. I can't find it on Youtube, but I bought it on Amazon. It's pretty.


I'm not sure why sticking to a fairly specific subject is "ridiculous". I know Salonen has written piano music. So have many other composers who aren't pianists. What do they have to do with the subject of this thread?





Honestly, I didn't really think about it. I just posted a living composer that I liked. I didn't think it would matter that much. But apparently it does. But it doesn't really matter, it only matter to you because you like conflict.


You know what? You're right... it doesn't matter and if you read the first response to your post you would notice that it only mentioned that he is not a pianist as far as I (poster) knows. Nothing rude about the post whatsoever. You took offense immediately for whatever ridiculous reason (wording intentional) and now you want to tell others that they enjoy conflict when, in fact, all they have done is to point out the obvious. Get a grip.

By the way, Gould's attempts at composition leave much to be desired. Just sayin'.



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Re: Which living pianists write piano transcription or [Re: stores] #1928196
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Originally Posted by stores

By the way, Gould's attempts at composition leave much to be desired. Just sayin'.

I hardly disagree, though I might be tempted to say "something" rather than "much".


Sometimes, we all just need to be shown a little kindness <3
Re: Which living classical pianists have written ... [Re: beet31425] #1928299
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Originally Posted by beet31425
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Anderson & Roe compose their own transcriptions...

I really appreciate how inventive and creative they are. It makes me wish that I didn't hate every aspect of their videos, from the very depth of my soul. Torture for me to watch.

-J


My friend saw the video and said it was like piano porn... the way they looked at each other etc...

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Originally Posted by allegro_concerto
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Originally Posted by pianojerome
Anderson & Roe compose their own transcriptions...

I really appreciate how inventive and creative they are. It makes me wish that I didn't hate every aspect of their videos, from the very depth of my soul. Torture for me to watch.

-J


My friend saw the video and said it was like piano porn... the way they looked at each other etc...

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Re: Which living pianists write piano transcription or [Re: stores] #1928432
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Originally Posted by stores
Originally Posted by Danielsan
Originally Posted by wr
Originally Posted by Danielsan
Check out Esa Pekka Salonen's work. He's nuts. Amazing modern works.



He's not considered to be a pianist, AFAIK.


You're a ridiculous bunch of people of this forum. Have to "correct" everything and rarely in a nice way.

He's a conductor, but he wrote a bunch of piano works. Gloria plays some of them. He wrote a work called Dichotomie. I can't find it on Youtube, but I bought it on Amazon. It's pretty.


Not so ridiculous considering the question was regarding LIVING PIANISTS... not conductors, nor cellists, nor violinists, nor anyone other musician, but again, LIVING PIANISTS. The only thing ridiculous is that you find others ridiculous for correcting your incorrect offering.

Thank goodness for the Pianoworld police! Yes, the thread title refers pianists, but not concert pianists. By that definition I'm a pianist. It wouldn't surprise me that a world class conductor might have considerable skills at the piano despite the fact that his first instrument is horn. So are any of the Pianoworld police absolutely sure that Esa Pekka Salonen has absolutely no skills as a pianist? Then perhaps we should concern ourselves with defining what level of skill makes a pianist.

Re: Which living pianists write piano transcription or [Re: Steve Chandler] #1928460
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Originally Posted by Steve Chandler
Originally Posted by stores
Originally Posted by Danielsan
Originally Posted by wr
Originally Posted by Danielsan
Check out Esa Pekka Salonen's work. He's nuts. Amazing modern works.



He's not considered to be a pianist, AFAIK.


You're a ridiculous bunch of people of this forum. Have to "correct" everything and rarely in a nice way.

He's a conductor, but he wrote a bunch of piano works. Gloria plays some of them. He wrote a work called Dichotomie. I can't find it on Youtube, but I bought it on Amazon. It's pretty.


Not so ridiculous considering the question was regarding LIVING PIANISTS... not conductors, nor cellists, nor violinists, nor anyone other musician, but again, LIVING PIANISTS. The only thing ridiculous is that you find others ridiculous for correcting your incorrect offering.

Thank goodness for the Pianoworld police! Yes, the thread title refers pianists, but not concert pianists. By that definition I'm a pianist. It wouldn't surprise me that a world class conductor might have considerable skills at the piano despite the fact that his first instrument is horn. So are any of the Pianoworld police absolutely sure that Esa Pekka Salonen has absolutely no skills as a pianist? Then perhaps we should concern ourselves with defining what level of skill makes a pianist.


My sense is that the original question was born out of an interest to see if the tradition of Rachmaninov, Liszt, and others who performed their own works in concert still exists among classical pianists today, or if they simply perform what other people have written. To me, it seemed implied that the question was not actually about the piano music itself, so much as who the people were that were writing it. That could be why wr made his comment, not to police, but to clarify. It doesn't matter to this discussion if non-concert pianists (or pianists who are no longer alive) are writing piano music, because that doesn't tell us anything about the tradition of Liszt, Rachmaninov, et al still being alive and well today.

That being said, I'm always happy when conversations generate new topics and questions, but I do think the harshness against wr is quite unnecessary. (Though I certainly won't police it, aside from expressing my opinion in this post.)


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Re: Which living pianists write piano transcription or [Re: pianojerome] #1928478
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Originally Posted by pianojerome

My sense is that the original question was born out of an interest to see if the tradition of Rachmaninov, Liszt, and others who performed their own works in concert still exists among classical pianists today, or if they simply perform what other people have written. To me, it seemed implied that the question was not actually about the piano music itself, so much as who the people were that were writing it. That could be why wr made his comment, not to police, but to clarify. It doesn't matter to this discussion if non-concert pianists (or pianists who are no longer alive) are writing piano music, because that doesn't tell us anything about the tradition of Liszt, Rachmaninov, et al still being alive and well today.

Thank you for the clarification. To answer the question as it's now been posed, if you have to ask then the answer's probably no. None of the living concert pianists has achieved anywhere close to the notoriety of Liszt or Rachmaninov as composers. Having heard some of Stephen Hough's compositions I find that sad, they're really cool. Here's a link to one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY4gZb2mnGg&feature=related

Re: Which living pianists write piano transcription or [Re: Steve Chandler] #1928504
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Originally Posted by Steve Chandler
To answer the question as it's now been posed, if you have to ask then the answer's probably no. None of the living concert pianists has achieved anywhere close to the notoriety of Liszt or Rachmaninov as composers.

But that's just a special case of the more general fact that none of today's living composers has achieved anywhere close to the notoriety-- or fame, for that matter-- of Liszt or Rachmaninov.

What are we doing...

-J


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Re: Which living pianists write piano transcription or [Re: pianoloverus] #1928506
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I think from the many examples I gave in my OP it was reasonably clear that I meant concert level classical pianists. Also, the question wasn't if their works had become as famous as those by Rachmaninov or Liszt, just whether any had written piano music.

Of the people mentioned so far I'd say O'Riley, Hewitt, Rzewski, and Greg Anderson meet the criteria I had in mind.

Last edited by pianoloverus; 07/18/12 11:55 AM.
Re: Which living pianists write piano transcription or [Re: pianoloverus] #1928897
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
I think from the many examples I gave in my OP it was reasonably clear that I meant concert level classical pianists. Also, the question wasn't if their works had become as famous as those by Rachmaninov or Liszt, just whether any had written piano music.

Of the people mentioned so far I'd say O'Riley, Hewitt, Rzewski, and Greg Anderson meet the criteria I had in mind.


Another might be Gabriela Montero, who has written a piece for piano and orchestra that's been performed at least a couple of times.

Rolf Hind is another - I first got to know about him as a pianist, but it turns out he has composed quite a lot of music, too.


Re: Which living pianists write piano transcription or [Re: pianoloverus] #1928913
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Maestro Wild transcriptions are superb and his piano sonata wonderful.


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Re: Which living pianists write piano transcription or [Re: Serge Marinkovic] #1928949
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Originally Posted by Serge Marinkovic
Maestro Wild transcriptions are superb and his piano sonata wonderful.
He is probably the greatest transcriber of piano in the last 20 years or more but unfortunately passed away a couple of years ago so does not qualify.

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