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#1926711 - 07/14/12 12:11 PM Re: Can you give examples of why we want 88 rather than 76 keys? [Re: turnstyle]  
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This is where I keep my digital piano (88 keys of course.) Not sure if this is the best place for it, in the storage room, but the room is equipped as a work room, with a table and electrig plugs.

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#1926718 - 07/14/12 12:50 PM Re: Can you give examples of why we want 88 rather than 76 keys? [Re: turnstyle]  
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I also live in a very small room, and my DP actually lives in front of my closet (I guess i'm not much of a clothes horse anymore... my closet is mostly storage). Here's a pic of my setup (the room is so small you can see a corner of my bed in the lower right, which I was kneeling upon when I took the pic)
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#1926760 - 07/14/12 03:44 PM Re: Can you give examples of why we want 88 rather than 76 keys? [Re: turnstyle]  
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"...As for Fatar keysets... well, they make better and worse ones, but before you jump off that bridge, try the Search feature and see what other members of this forum have had to say...."

Whoops--- disoriented. I forgot what forum we are on. I should have said, "the Digital Pianos, Synths and Keyboards forum."

And btw, good luck with the Search feature.


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#1926812 - 07/14/12 06:36 PM Re: Can you give examples of why we want 88 rather than 76 keys? [Re: turnstyle]  
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My harpsichord has 48 keys. 48.

I have never missed a key. So unless you play extreme repertoire from romantique and post romantique era, you don't need 88 keys.

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#1926823 - 07/14/12 07:26 PM Re: Can you give examples of why we want 88 rather than 76 keys? [Re: turnstyle]  
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I wonder too. I never seem to get beyond 2nd C above middle C or 3rd F below middle C.


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#1926945 - 07/15/12 01:31 AM Re: Can you give examples of why we want 88 rather than 76 keys? [Re: turnstyle]  
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Um...because a piano has 88 keys and not 76.

Pretty simple concept.

#1929810 - 07/20/12 03:43 PM Re: Can you give examples of why we want 88 rather than 76 keys? [Re: turnstyle]  
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I second the recommendation for 88 keys. Then you can play any piano repertoire you want, now or later, without worry.

The 76-, 61-, and 49-key digital keyboards don't have full piano range. They were meant to be portable, to be used on stage performing mainly synth/organ parts.

The cost savings going with the shorter keyboard isn't worth it, particularly with a 76- vs. an 88-key keyboard. The 49- and 61-key boards can be much cheaper, but they often have "organ-touch" instead of "piano-touch" keys.

With a 48-key harpsichord, that shorter compass was commonplace during the Baroque era, and if you play mainly Baroque harpsichord music, it will fit within this range. But many piano students are interested in learning to play music from the 19th-20th centuries, when piano keyboards had at least 85, and usually 88 keys.


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#1930502 - 07/22/12 12:06 AM Re: Can you give examples of why we want 88 rather than 76 keys? [Re: turnstyle]  
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This is 97 keys. More is always better . . . its just a fact of human nature.


#1930527 - 07/22/12 01:51 AM Re: Can you give examples of why we want 88 rather than 76 keys? [Re: turnstyle]  
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It of course depends on the music you want to play with your keyboard. There are quite a number of classical pieces requiring 88 keys but they are generally at a very advanced level (e.g. Liszt Campanella, Ravel Jeux D'eau, Rachmaninov G# minor prelude etc). If you aren't going to play these say in the next 5 years, no harm with 76 keys. If you do end up needing 88 keys after 5 years, well, it's time for an upgrade anyway.

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#1931007 - 07/22/12 11:33 PM Re: Can you give examples of why we want 88 rather than 76 keys? [Re: turnstyle]  
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In addition to the other, very good points, on an acoustic piano the sound quality would suffer with fewer than 88 keys.

With an acoustic piano when the sustain pedal is pressed all the related strings will vibrate in addition to the notes actually played, giving a fuller, more complex sound. A digital piano might have sustain samples that include the missing keys but I would suspect with fewer than 88 keys that other corners were cut as well and the unit may not sound all that great.

I started on a digital piano and I found that the keyboard touch was critical to learning to play with expression so I would make sure that the piano you are looking at has the most realistic action possible.

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#1931022 - 07/22/12 11:55 PM Re: Can you give examples of why we want 88 rather than 76 keys? [Re: turnstyle]  
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I would recommend a full size keyboard. 88 keys. A Year ago I had a keyboard that only had 61 keys on it. I got frustrated with it often as I was unable to play a lot of the pieces that I wanted to. So I finally got a keyboard that has 76 keys.

My keyboard works for most of the pieces I play. I have also noticed a big difference in the way it sounds compared to my other keyboard. However; There have been a few songs where there are not enough keys. The one I am working on now for example: There are not enough keys on my keyboard to play the ending.
So my recommendation is a full size piano/keyboard.
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