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I have a yamaha CLP-430, and I have a few questions about it.

First has anyone ever had problems with the power button on digital pianos? I've had a digital keyboard before, and after a few years of daily use, the power button wouldn't turn the keyboard off anymore(it was nowhere near as good as this one, but still). I'm just wondering if turning it on and off 3 times a day will wear it out over the years.

There was a warning about the power requirements and voltage selector (not sure if the clp-430 has the voltage selector or not). Do I have anything to worry about if plugging it in to an american household electrical outlet, or was that warning more for using this piano in other countries? It says 120V 25W and 60Hz on the plate under it.

Also, when should it be unplugged? It says that it continues to draw power even when turned off, so is leaving it plugged in all the time okay? I'll unplug it if I'm going to be gone for a few days or so, but do you guys usually keep yours plugged in even if you skip a day?

I know some of these questions are kind of dumb, but it cost me $2,500

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"120V 25W and 60Hz" - that's standard US, should be fine.

Plug it into a good surge protecting power strip and use that to turn it off when you're not using it. Saves wear and tear on the power button and helps protect your DP.

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If you want to avoid wear on the piano's power switch, just get a small power-strip. They're under $5. Leave the piano on, and control it from the power-strip. If the power-strip's switch fails, you're out a mere $5.

In my case, I leave the power switch on at all times. The piano (and my other equipment) get power from my receiver/amplifier. So when I turn on the amplifier, everything gets powered up.

I unplug the piano (and lots of other things) only when I go away for an extended period.

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Is a power strip different from a multiple-connector?
Is says "Do not connect the instrument to an electrical outlet using a multiple-connector. Doing so can result in lower sound quality, or possibly cause overheating in the outlet."

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Leave the piano on, and control it from the power-strip. If the power-strip's switch fails, you're out a mere $5.


Don't. If you take out the power that way, the power goes out abruptly, which is probably not what the switch on the piano does.

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I usually turn on my N3 from a power strip but only because I'm lazy. I have several items plugged into that strip and it just saves time.

I personally wouldn't worry about the on\off switch, but that's just me. (I'm more concerned about keeping my computer backed up on a separate drive. I know one day I'll turn on the computer and the on\off switch will work but the hard drive won't boot up.)


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Leave the piano on, and control it from the power-strip. If the power-strip's switch fails, you're out a mere $5.


Don't. If you take out the power that way, the power goes out abruptly, which is probably not what the switch on the piano does.


you seem to have the minority opinion here, and i am now very interested becuase i use the on/off button of my vpiano and maybe it makes more sense just to use the surge protected power strip i have.

Can you expand on your thinking?
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Leave the piano on, and control it from the power-strip. If the power-strip's switch fails, you're out a mere $5.


Don't. If you take out the power that way, the power goes out abruptly, which is probably not what the switch on the piano does.


you seem to have the minority opinion here, and i am now very interested becuase i use the on/off button of my vpiano and maybe it makes more sense just to use the surge protected power strip i have.

Can you expand on your thinking?
thanks


Use the power-strip for protection, use the on/off switch on the piano for convenience.

I think this is total overreaction about the likelihood of power-switches wearing out. I've got dozens of devices that have been switched on multiple times a day for 15 years and all of them are still working. Not only that, but if the unlikely happens and you need a new switch at some stage, even if you couldn't get a replacement original switch, you'll find a generic switch that fits and looks fine. There are catalogs of switches of every shape, size and colour. Just use your piano the way it's most convenient and don't worry about your power switch.

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Leave the piano on, and control it from the power-strip. If the power-strip's switch fails, you're out a mere $5.


Don't. If you take out the power that way, the power goes out abruptly, which is probably not what the switch on the piano does.


you seem to have the minority opinion here, and i am now very interested becuase i use the on/off button of my vpiano and maybe it makes more sense just to use the surge protected power strip i have.

Can you expand on your thinking?
thanks


Use the power-strip for protection, use the on/off switch on the piano for convenience.

I think this is total overreaction about the likelihood of power-switches wearing out. I've got dozens of devices that have been switched on multiple times a day for 15 years and all of them are still working. Not only that, but if the unlikely happens and you need a new switch at some stage, even if you couldn't get a replacement original switch, you'll find a generic switch that fits and looks fine. There are catalogs of switches of every shape, size and colour. Just use your piano the way it's most convenient and don't worry about your power switch.


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Originally Posted by nicola montecchio
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Leave the piano on, and control it from the power-strip. If the power-strip's switch fails, you're out a mere $5.


Don't. If you take out the power that way, the power goes out abruptly, which is probably not what the switch on the piano does.

'probably' is the key word here. If the DP power switch is merely a single or double pole switch on the AC input then using the power switch on an outlet strip instead is going to be exaclty the same. I suspect this is the case here, but I don't know.

If the DP power switch is a signal switch connected to the PCB in the DP, a bit like the power switch on my laptop, then it's providing a logic signal to the power circuitry or some firmware/software to instigate a controlled power down. 'probably' not in this case.

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See if the specs mention standby power. If it does, then the switch is not a mains switch.


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It's a power switch. Pianos don't have a standby mode. It's a power switch.

Much ado about nothing.

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
It's a power switch. Pianos don't have a standby mode. It's a power switch.

Probably true, but since I don't own every digital piano ever made I have no way to verify that.


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Lots of electronic devices have a "stand by" mode. TVs, computers, I would suspect the majority of modern devices do. The question is whether shutting the mains off to them lengthens or shortens their life, statistically speaking. My bet is disconnecting anything from the AC supply when you're not using it (i.e. turning off the power strip it's plugged into) is a net gain, mainly because it then physically can't be taken out by a power surge. Lightening might still jump the switch gap I suppose, but all bets are off if that happens.


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