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It isn’t the fumes for me Jerry. The more quick fix products we use the more we encourage corporations who make this stuff to further pollute our world.
I try not to contribute to that as much as possible.
I'm the exact opposite. I rev my engine at stop lights in my quest to triple my carbon footprint. 
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Interesting thoughts, Dan. Thanks, I appreciate everybody's opinions. I'll be discussing options with my customer.
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Hi Anne:
The real solution here is to repin the piano, or it may
need a pinblock. I have seen Yamahas that age, and they don't
usually hold up well. CA could be a short-term fix, but
no guarantee can be given with this vintage Yamaha.
Take care,
Steve
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I think that Yamahas are in the better grade of pianos and it should really be repinned rather than the CA treatment, which in my opinion should only be used on pianos with one foot in the grave. If the piano is 54 years of age the question is, how much money has been spent on it other than tuning? No-one lets their car go half a million miles without repairs and replacement parts. Piano owners in general only think that a piano only needs tuning and never think it will wear out or be damaged by extremes of humidity.
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I'll put in my two cents... I use CA glue all the time. I use it quite often on just a few pins but have done several jobs on the whole piano. As far as fumes are concerned, even doing a whole piano the fumes dissipate quickly, although it probably is a good idea to wear a mask and safety glasses. It's very fast. The pin will be tighter within 5 minutes and in probably 10 minutes it's like new. Sometimes, and I'm not sure why, the first tuning after the application the pin will crack loose and then be fine. It rarely happens though. Sounds like with this Yamaha maybe an entire application isn't needed unless you want to even out the feel of the pins. At one time I was concerned about what would happen someday when/if the piano was rebuilt but on a previous thread some rebuilders said that it's not a problem. Also, if a pin isn't tight enough after one application you can just add more.
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Also, if you want an alternative to Dampp Chaser, here's a product I use that doesn't require watering, etc... http://www.musicsorbonline.com/
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I'll put in my two cents... I use CA glue all the time. I use it quite often on just a few pins but have done several jobs on the whole piano. As far as fumes are concerned, even doing a whole piano the fumes dissipate quickly, although it probably is a good idea to wear a mask and safety glasses. It's very fast. The pin will be tighter within 5 minutes and in probably 10 minutes it's like new. Sometimes, and I'm not sure why, the first tuning after the application the pin will crack loose and then be fine. It rarely happens though. Sounds like with this Yamaha maybe an entire application isn't needed unless you want to even out the feel of the pins. At one time I was concerned about what would happen someday when/if the piano was rebuilt but on a previous thread some rebuilders said that it's not a problem. Also, if a pin isn't tight enough after one application you can just add more. +1 It is not a short term fix, when it works. The treatment lasts years. If it does not work, no harm is done you can repin without any problems.
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The fumes from CA glue are awful if you use the applicator that comes on the bottle but it's not so bad if you use a veterinary syringe to apply it directly to the base of the pin, less messy too. That way very little is left on the surface to evaporate and get into your face. I think that the solvent in the glue that wicks down into the piano gets absorbed into the wood rather than releasing into the air. There's still some fumes but its tolerable. It uses less glue too.
Piano Technician www.pianotech.ca Piano tuners make the world a better place, one string at a time.
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