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Hey everyone.. i think its time for me to upgrade to a grand piano, or atleast a baby grand. I am trying for a new Yamaha or Kawai. Just wanted input on the mentioned models ( these are brand new pianos i am considering) I am actually going out to a local piano store that is an authorized yamaha dealer soon and will test drive the C1. i know the rx-1 has 2 inches on the c1 but Yamaha comes highly recommended from a few people i know (including tuners). is there a big difference in price and performance? Also, the reason i want to go new is the financing specials they are offering at the moment. any input would be greatly appreciated. thx

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There is not a significant difference in quality according to most experts (e.g., Larry Fine). There IS a difference in sound, with individual preferences determining which is "better" to anyone's given ear.

From my perspective, the C1 should only be considered for small spaces. The C2 costs only a little more money and is way more piano in terms of sound, at least to my ear. Said differently, I think it's not unfair to say that if you price a C1 and a C2 and play both, you're likely to agree that the C2 is a much better value. This is NOT true for most similar leaps up the C-series chain. E.g., a C3 sounds a lot better than a C2 to most ears, but it's not "only a little more money."

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What are your price quotes on each? PM me if you don't want to post them in public here.

Would it be a big financial leap for a Kawai RX2 or Yamha C2?

I think a little more room will give you a lot more tone for the money

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I like the bass of the C2 much more than the C1.


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Originally Posted by Dave B
I like the bass of the C2 much more than the C1.


And I like the bass of the RX-3 over the RX-2...

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Originally Posted by gnuboi
Originally Posted by Dave B
I like the bass of the C2 much more than the C1.


And I like the bass of the RX-3 over the RX-2...


Like with the C1 and C2, the difference between Rx-1 and RX-2 is big in sound but the difference in cost is relatively modest. Unfortunately, in going from RX-2 to RX-3 (or C2 to C-3) the big difference in sound is accompanied by a big difference in price.

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I had the opportunity to test the C1, C2 and C3, plus the RX1, 2 and 3 in the same showroom over some considerable time. I had/have limited space, but I went for the RX2 over the RX1 and have not regretted it, even though it means a radiator has to be off permanently near the tail. (Playing keeps you warm anyway!) Choice between Yamaha and Kawai is a personal thing but if it's Kawai, stretch to the RX2 if you can. I couldn't house an RX3 anyway, but it is, as you would expect, a step improvement in sound.


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