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Let's face it- parents fear their kid turning into an ADHD zombie! They don't want their son or daughter addiced to drugs like ritalin and adderall. So, why not market piano lessons as an ADHD prevention measure.
Some slogans include
Less ritalin, more chopin. I know that it doesn't exactly rhyme, but a lot of people don't know how to pronounce chopin.
Stop Medicating, Start practicing!- maybe have a picture of an adhd zombie kid under stop medicating, and a focused child under the start practicing.
Maybe a pic of a piano with the words "ADHD prevention machine" under it?
Seriously, I had a girl who almost made me believe in ADHD this semester. She had all the classic signs- fidgety, would want to do something else, moving around a lot, etc. Then, when she started to learn to play you could just see the ADHD melt away!
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There is no way I am answering. You post every few days and NEVER reply to anything that anyone says to you.
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There is no way I am answering. You post every few days and NEVER reply to anything that anyone says to you. You just did answer! Why do I need to answer something, when I don't have any further questions?
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To be honest, I can think of other demographics to which I would rather target my advertising
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Let's face it- parents fear their kid turning into an ADHD zombie! They don't want their son or daughter addiced to drugs like ritalin and adderall. Ritalin and Adderall are not addictive.
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kspriggs, in forum netiquette, it is desirable to acknowledge people's answers when they take the time to try to help, and possibly add your own thoughts or new questions to it. They are discussion forums for discussions. People are interested in your responses and want to know that they have been heard. When someone starts several threads and never responds back, it creates bad feelings. This is what is going on.
In regards to your observation --- you are describing fidgety behaviour which can be for any number of reasons such as boredom or a need to move physically. Unfortunately ADHD has become a popular catch-all phrase used to describe everything. Real ADHD is a symptom of a number of things which can be physical, part of the nervous system etc., and can't be cured that way. But piano might be a cure for the fidgety behaviour caused by boredom, a child's need to move, and any number of things. A child might have been misdiagnosed because dosing him/her with Ritalin is the easiest "cure".
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How about teaching kids respect, honesty and giving them a little discipline now and then while we're at it? Saying NO and sticking to it, really Issss okay......
Jerry Groot RPT Piano Technicians Guild Grand Rapids, Michigan www.grootpiano.comWe love to play BF2.
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How about teaching kids respect, honesty and giving them a little discipline now and then while we're at it? Saying NO and sticking to it, really Issss okay......
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In out of the respect for my son who has ADHD and myself ADD, music does not necessary fix it. The key is focus and keeping focus to the task at hand. Positive reinforcement and medication do help but does not go away. I am not medication but I have learned to deal with it all my life.
It is a disorder, not a disease. Most important, the doctor attending with my son, still is monitoring his ADHD even though he is not on medication now.
I have worked with students who have symptoms of ADHD and they are great. Each student has different learning styles and so music does provide one way to organize their thoughts and processes. I would not say music lessons would be a preventive measure for ADHD.
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I would not say music lessons would be a preventive measure for ADHD. My thoughts exactly!
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I have worked with students who have symptoms of ADHD and they are great. Each student has different learning styles and so music does provide one way to organize their thoughts and processes. I would not say music lessons would be a preventive measure for ADHD.
Many times I find that kids who are labeled ADD or ADHD have incredibly fast minds. So even though they have "problems" that are real, it is impossible to know for sure how many of these "problems" are caused by working with so called "normal" people, whose normality is often a pitifully average, non-intuitive, cookbook mentality totally encouraged by our ROTTEN school system. The only "fix" in music is that those of us who do not learn the "way we are supposed to" have a chance of being treated as individuals by really smart teachers who are not locked into a "one way fits all" approach.
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[quote=keystring]kspriggs, in forum netiquette, it is desirable to acknowledge people's answers when they take the time to try to help, and possibly add your own thoughts or new questions to it. They are discussion forums for discussions. People are interested in your responses and want to know that they have been heard. When someone starts several threads and never responds back, it creates bad feelings. This is what is going on.
That sounds like massive insecurity rather than netiquette. Why does somebody always need to have their opinion validated with more discussion?
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There is no way I am answering. You post every few days and NEVER reply to anything that anyone says to you. You just did answer! Why do I need to answer something, when I don't have any further questions? Not answering implies that no one has mentioned anything valuable enough to simply say, "Thank you for that idea." I suspect you will not understand the idea of minimal politeness.
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That sounds like massive insecurity rather than netiquette. Why does somebody always need to have their opinion validated with more discussion?
I did not write "need" - I said "desirable" and "interested in your response. A synonym might be manners. I responded to your thoughts on ADHD. What is your reaction?
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That sounds like massive insecurity rather than netiquette. Why does somebody always need to have their opinion validated with more discussion? Massive insecurity??? How did you arrive at that conclusion? I don't follow your logic.
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That sounds like massive insecurity rather than netiquette. Why does somebody always need to have their opinion validated with more discussion? Massive insecurity??? How did you arrive at that conclusion? I don't follow your logic. He arrived that because rude people either don't know they are rude or don't care.
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How about teaching kids respect, honesty and giving them a little discipline now and then while we're at it? Saying NO and sticking to it, really Issss okay...... We should be doing these things whether our kids have ADHD or not.
I'll figure it out eventually. Until then you may want to keep a safe distance.
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Let's face it- parents fear their kid turning into an ADHD zombie! They don't want their son or daughter addiced to drugs like ritalin and adderall. Ritalin and Adderall are not addictive. And they don't cause kids to act like zombies, either.
I'll figure it out eventually. Until then you may want to keep a safe distance.
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Are you qualified to make that diagnosis Spriggs? Your prescribed "treatment" and reducing it to a slogan is an insult to anyone who has to directly or indirectly deal with this problem.
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I don't think that the OP knows what ADHD is, as a starter.
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