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#1976114 - 10/20/12 07:10 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Eagerly awaiting Toastie's post! I bet she is on her way to her piano...
Sam that's a very shiny car. Can't drive myself- I walk everywhere!

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#1976178 - 10/20/12 09:16 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Edwardian, re: the length of a beat.
fwiw, the metronome numbers indicate beats per minute (bpm). So if the metronome is set at 60, that's 60 bpm, so 1 beat = 1 second. For metronome setting 120, 1 beat = half a second.


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#1976197 - 10/20/12 09:48 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: EdwardianPiano]  
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Originally Posted by EdwardianPiano
..if only it was a crotchet = 1 second, a semi breve 4 seconds etc then I would at least some idea- if the beats have no length there is no way I will ever understand how to measure them. It isn't like making a pot of soup and I can put six carrots in, 2 onions, 5 spuds, handful peas, two tins tomatoes, handful cauli,


Well done! You've completely cracked it! It's EXACTLY like carrots, onions etc. But if you use six SMALL carrots, you need to use two SMALL onions! Big carrots, big onions. It's all relative.

Here's another way of looking at it. Walk 10 paces North, 10 paces East, 10 paces South and 10 paces West. You'll have walked out a square (unless you started at the South Pole:-) Now get a 5-year-old child to do the same. Still a square, but smaller steps, so a smaller one.

I feel your pain though. Last night I met a young boy who had just started drum lessons. He could play a basic rock beat pretty well, but only at one speed. He found it very hard to follow as I played a similar rhythm at a different tempo.

And there are plenty of singers who have learned a song by imitating a recording and can't sing it in a different key, even when it suits their voice better. They've learned it physically, not aurally.

Teachers take note. Students often learn the physical action, but not the music.


#1976282 - 10/20/12 12:45 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: joyoussong]  
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Originally Posted by joyoussong
Edwardian, re: the length of a beat.
fwiw, the metronome numbers indicate beats per minute (bpm). So if the metronome is set at 60, that's 60 bpm, so 1 beat = 1 second. For metronome setting 120, 1 beat = half a second.


OOOH thanks....still bit confused. I tried with the metronome the other week- my teacher set an online one for me. I couldn't strike a key in time to it- will have to keep trying!


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#1976288 - 10/20/12 12:49 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: Exalted Wombat]  
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Originally Posted by EdwardianPiano
..if only it was a crotchet = 1 second, a semi breve 4 seconds etc then I would at least some idea- if the beats have no length there is no way I will ever understand how to measure them. It isn't like making a pot of soup and I can put six carrots in, 2 onions, 5 spuds, handful peas, two tins tomatoes, handful cauli,


Well done! You've completely cracked it! It's EXACTLY like carrots, onions etc. But if you use six SMALL carrots, you need to use two SMALL onions! Big carrots, big onions. It's all relative.

Here's another way of looking at it. Walk 10 paces North, 10 paces East, 10 paces South and 10 paces West. You'll have walked out a square (unless you started at the South Pole:-) Now get a 5-year-old child to do the same. Still a square, but smaller steps, so a smaller one.

I feel your pain though. Last night I met a young boy who had just started drum lessons. He could play a basic rock beat pretty well, but only at one speed. He found it very hard to follow as I played a similar rhythm at a different tempo.

And there are plenty of singers who have learned a song by imitating a recording and can't sing it in a different key, even when it suits their voice better. They've learned it physically, not aurally.

Teachers take note. Students often learn the physical action, but not the music.



The soup changes each time! So do my flapjacks heh heh! People get confused getting recipes off me cos I tend to throw things in, mix it up and hey presto a great soup or flapjack- they want measurements but I don't do measurements.

Obviously I learn the action but not aurally.I can pick out notes and key signatures by ear though.


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#1976289 - 10/20/12 12:50 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Edward: the metronome is the nemesis of many of us! LOL it took me weeks to be able to stay remotely on beat with it. (I haven't used it in awhile so I figure I'm probably back to square one with it) Work with it a little bit each day and it will slowly improve. smile


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#1976290 - 10/20/12 12:51 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: BeccaBb]  
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Originally Posted by BeccaBb
Edward: the metronome is the nemesis of many of us! LOL it took me weeks to be able to stay remotely on beat with it. (I haven't used it in awhile so I figure I'm probably back to square one with it) Work with it a little bit each day and it will slowly improve. smile


Will do Becca- funny, I can tap my little drum in time to it right enough!


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#1976306 - 10/20/12 01:24 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: BeccaBb]  
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Originally Posted by BeccaBb
Edward: the metronome is the nemesis of many of us!


Better attitude: the metronome is the SAVIOUR of many of us!

It also encourages creative thinking, as we work out ever more ingenious reasons why our sloppy timing is JUST FINE and metronomes are simply not for us :-)

#1976463 - 10/20/12 08:38 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Hi all. I am sitting at Phoenix airport waiting for my British air flight to Heathrow. I wanted to grab a concert on Sunday but I don't think it's feasible. The plane is scheduled to land at 1:00 Pm local time. If my past experience is still relevant, it will take about 1 to 2 hours to get through the passport control. Then it will take another hour to get to London Victoria. I have to eventually go to my destination ( Brighton) after that. We are allow to hire a car service but I feel very guilty about having my company pay 250 pounds for the journey. So I will probably get a coach. I practiced about 2 hours before I came here. I will miss it.

Ok so my achievement this week. I'm getting used to my new teacher. For one thing she is extremely demanding. She makes me play the piece through every time we start the lesson. Then she tells me where she did not agree with my interpretation. To tell you the truth, I'm barely playing. I actually never got to the point to interprete. I was just playing the note. Then she explains why she did not like my 'interpretation'. For example, she will say that she did not hear deceptive cadances. "how about crescendo to that point, emphasze it and come down from there, etc". Then she tells me to at it that way. So it's kind of like mini master class. Also she make me sight read the next section. It's hard. Usually sight reading is a couple of grade below. I was sweating. But I somehow did it. So that's my achievement.



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#1976477 - 10/20/12 09:16 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: FarmGirl]  
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Originally Posted by FarmGirl
Hi all. I am sitting at Phoenix airport waiting for my British air flight to Heathrow. I wanted to grab a concert on Sunday but I don't think it's feasible. The plane is scheduled to land at 1:00 Pm local time. If my past experience is still relevant, it will take about 1 to 2 hours to get through the passport control. Then it will take another hour to get to London Victoria. I have to eventually go to my destination ( Brighton) after that. We are allow to hire a car service but I feel very guilty about having my company pay 250 pounds for the journey. So I will probably get a coach. I practiced about 2 hours before I came here. I will miss it.

Ok so my achievement this week. I'm getting used to my new teacher. For one thing she is extremely demanding. She makes me play the piece through every time we start the lesson. Then she tells me where she did not agree with my interpretation. To tell you the truth, I'm barely playing. I actually never got to the point to interprete. I was just playing the note. Then she explains why she did not like my 'interpretation'. For example, she will say that she did not hear deceptive cadances. "how about crescendo to that point, emphasze it and come down from there, etc". Then she tells me to at it that way. So it's kind of like mini master class. Also she make me sight read the next section. It's hard. Usually sight reading is a couple of grade below. I was sweating. But I somehow did it. So that's my achievement.


FarmGirl -
I hope you manage to have some fun on your trip... if you're like me you'll watch about 3 movies on the way over and not get much sleep. smile I'm traveling a lot this month too, though nothing as far afield as you... I always enjoy playing piano when I get back.
Your new teacher sounds... challenging. I hope you're not feeling steamrolled, but inspired instead. Good luck!


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I see most of the excitement is about Toastie's new Yamaha U3 upright. Congratulations.

Week 32: practiced every day (3rd week in a row). I am still at about 15 minutes on most days and really had to force myself on one day. The new piece Shimmer is coming along. It may be near done. I enjoy playing it. It is a simple piece in C major. I plan to record it for the upcoming ABF recital.

The highlight of the week was attending a concert. Iryna Krechkovsky on violin, Kevin Kwan Loucks on piano, performed a program of Debussy, Strauss, Brahms and Gershwin. Debussy's Sonata in G minor (L. 140), a section from Strauss' Sonata in E-flat Major Op. 18, Brahms' Sonata No. 2 in A Major Op. 100, and selections from Porgy and Bess. Ms. Krechkovsky won a Canadian contest where the prizes are three-year loans of fine instruments. She played her prize a 1689 "Baumgartner" Stradivarius.
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#1976631 - 10/21/12 06:21 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Not an achievement really but, after finding playing PP so difficult I moved away from the mellow setting on my Kawai digital, surprised to find the quieter end of the scale being more progressive in other settings.*
As with everybody it's two steps forward, one step back(sometimes two back), but the last couple of days my fingers are behaving better. laugh

Edit: * hmm, may have been in my head..

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#1976709 - 10/21/12 11:04 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Sam - my sister is in Canada...she probabl won't be stopping you smile

Toastie, where are the pics? smile

Farmgirl - sounds like your new teacher is demanding - but that you are enjoying your time with her too. I'd rather have a teacher who pushes me a bit than one who doesn't have expectations for me!

Sand Tiger - glad you were able to play this week - and that concert sounds great!

Stephen - Glad your fingers are paying attention to your brain's instructions a bit better!

I've had a quiet piano weekend- played a bit yesterday morning, then we left to head out to the hills of Piemonte, to enjoy a weekend of good wine and good food. We also had the treat of going truffle hunting, with an expert and his dog. That was really fun. The season is poor this year because of the extremely hot/dry summer and dry autumn thus far, but the dog did find 2 black truffles and one white....all miniscule! Still, it was a fun experience.

And here we are, back home in time for me to play again today smile


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#1976824 - 10/21/12 04:51 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Cas, how fun to do a truffle search! And fun for the dog too. smile Must have been a good weekend.

Stephan, I think playing PP is very difficult. Much harder than to play FF. So any progress at playing PP is a big step forward.

Sand Tiger, that's a nice violin to hear! Unbelievable that violin from 1689 is still played every day.

Farmgirl, your new teacher sounds very good!


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#1976890 - 10/21/12 08:19 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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No "big achievements" here, just a general observation: after 4.5 months I can now better control the "mood" of the notes I'm playing rather than just trying to hit the keys with the correct timing. And it takes less time to learn a piece.


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#1976909 - 10/21/12 09:03 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Toastie - congrats on your new piano! I'm sure you'll really enjoy practicing on your new U3.

My accomplishment today was I played in a recital "Playing for Paws" in which students were supposed to get donations from sponsors to play their recital pieces, which went to an animal rescue. I was my own sponsor. There were quite a few students playing and everyone seemed to have fun.

I generally dread playing for other people, but I was told it's just like public speaking and to get over the fear, practice and practice and then do it. I'm glad I did it and I'm more happy that it's over.







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It's a long story which I can't really go into, but I don't have the piano yet, as was messed around by the dealer. Will have a U3 in a couple of weeks, as have had to get it from elsewhere.


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Originally Posted by Toastie
It's a long story which I can't really go into, but I don't have the piano yet, as was messed around by the dealer. Will have a U3 in a couple of weeks, as have had to get it from elsewhere.


I feared something might have happened when you didn't come back with an update on the day.

I'm so sorry to hear this. What a disappointment.

Hang in there... the disappointment will fade quickly once your piano finally comes home to rest.



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Originally Posted by casinitaly
Originally Posted by Toastie
It's a long story which I can't really go into, but I don't have the piano yet, as was messed around by the dealer. Will have a U3 in a couple of weeks, as have had to get it from elsewhere.


I feared something might have happened when you didn't come back with an update on the day.

I'm so sorry to hear this. What a disappointment.

Hang in there... the disappointment will fade quickly once your piano finally comes home to rest.



Thanks, it has been a thoroughly disappointing weekend. I should really have expected it though, because it is after all one of the laws of life that the more you look forward to something the more likely it is that something will go wrong!!!! But I will have one soon (and a better slightly newer piano for a better price) so its all good. Xx


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I can well believe how lowering it must have been.
But hey! Newer piano for a better price? That takes a bit of the sting out of it, doesn't it?

It will be wonderful.
We will look forward to your next burst of excitement as your delivery date approaches!


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My "achievement", if I can call it one, is that I finally reached the highlight of Alfred's book 2, i.e. an easy version of Chopin's Etude op. 10 no. 3. The good thing is I had the honor of listening to it played on my DP by a real piano teacher, a cousin of mine who is also an accomplished organist. Wow! The posture, the gestures, the dynamics! I'm starting to think I should really get a teacher sooner or later.


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Oh Toastie, I'm sorry to hear that. It's good though that you have found a new dealer and piano! smile I hope the time flies quickly for you!

Yay Sin! That's a huge achievement! Don't let listening to anyone (even family) who are way ahead of you get you down! Think of it as a challenge to someday achieve the same level! smile


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I feared something might have happened when you didn't come back with an update on the day.

I'm so sorry to hear this. What a disappointment.

Hang in there... the disappointment will fade quickly once your piano finally comes home to rest.


I felt that too- poor Toastie. I hope your piano is just perfect when it arrives.

Not quite the same but a similar thing happened to me- I saw an ad on freecycle for a piano, emailed the guy and felt very very strongly the piano would be mine the next day..BUT...he hadn't replied by the morning.
My eyes went to the previous month's piano on offer- I emailed them, a second later I got a reply and by that evening Piano was with me!! ( My neighbour was a van man which was so lucky and he didn't charge me)
Maybe this other U3 is the piano you were meant to have Toastie.

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Originally Posted by sinophilia
My "achievement", if I can call it one, is that I finally reached the highlight of Alfred's book 2, i.e. an easy version of Chopin's Etude op. 10 no. 3. The good thing is I had the honor of listening to it played on my DP by a real piano teacher, a cousin of mine who is also an accomplished organist. Wow! The posture, the gestures, the dynamics! I'm starting to think I should really get a teacher sooner or later.


Brilliant Sin!


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My accomplishment today was I played in a recital "Playing for Paws" in which students were supposed to get donations from sponsors to play their recital pieces, which went to an animal rescue. I was my own sponsor. There were quite a few students playing and everyone seemed to have fun.

I generally dread playing for other people, but I was told it's just like public speaking and to get over the fear, practice and practice and then do it. I'm glad I did it and I'm more happy that it's over.


Playing for paws! That's so cute. I love dogs!







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Today I tried my first ever chord progression C A F G, and was somehow able to come up with some melancholy melody for it that even sounded nice. Would never have guessed that I could do that.
I guess so far, that is my most exciting "achievement of the week" so far.


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#1977351 - 10/22/12 11:17 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: anivace]  
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Congrats, anivace. I've heard numerous times that some ridiculous percentage like 95% of melodies can be harmonized by just the chords I,IV, and V (in the "key" of C Major, or the white key scale, these chords are C, F, and G) - crazy!


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#1977396 - 10/23/12 01:37 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Anivace- that's no small achievement - Capturing the mood of a piece, plus doing some improvisation with chord progressions? Good for you - that is a pretty exciting step in a new, interesting direction!

j&j - what a great way to get experience playing in public - and for such a good cause too!

Diana, I'm listening to Chopin N10 now as I type. How exciting to be playing your first Chopin!!!!! It sounds to me as though you were inspired by your cousin's performance, that's the right way to take it. Many people here in PW don't have teachers and seem perfectly happy about that --- personally I really felt it was important. I know that I move more quickly over problem areas with help from my teacher, and I also know that there are technical points I would never have understood if not for my teacher. If you decide to look for one, I can ask my teacher (and my former teacher) if they have contacts /recommendations in your town! smile

Edward - what a great piano story!

I've made some progress on my Music Box piece, but still have a little section that is giving me grief. I'll see my teacher today and hope he will be able to nudge me in the right direction. Then I'll have to work on getting it up to speed! ack! smile


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#1977432 - 10/23/12 04:51 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: Bobpickle]  
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Originally Posted by Bobpickle
I've heard numerous times that some ridiculous percentage like 95% of melodies can be harmonized by just the chords I,IV, and V (in the "key" of C Major, or the white key scale, these chords are C, F, and G) - crazy!


Well yes, for some interpretations of "melody" and some interpretations of "can"! :-)

Good start! But it's wide open. As well as thinking in terms of "which of the stock chords can I make fit?" you could try "what notes go well with this melody?" Even better "What other melody fits well against this melody?"

Maybe what you write will be describable in terms of chord names. Maybe not. No matter!

#1977441 - 10/23/12 05:56 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Achievement? Well not exactly BUT making progress. I'm studying scales and chords. Oh yeah I've cruised through them before but am now following the RCM exam list and working to make them fluid and fast. I had REALLY wanted to take the level 5 exam this December. My pieces are close but the technical side just isn't there yet. So...my achievement is my persistence in working on this. Passing level 5 will feel good in 2013 too. AND I still enjoy the 5 pieces I've been polishing down to the nitty gritty detail...and the suspense remains "can she play them in front of a stranger?"


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