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Re: Relationship advice. Please help. [Re: theJourney] #1675979
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Originally Posted by theJourney
Well, it is the middle(most) Cl; hence "Middle C" as opposed to "Highest C" or "Lowest C".
I don't recall anyone referring to it as "the point intersecting the exact middle of the piano ambitus at C."


Yes, this.

Let's also not forget that until around the turn of the 20th century, it was more common for the piano to only reach a high A, rather than a high C - and in earlier periods, the range was more limited still. Modern portable keyboards come in 61, 73, 76 and 88 key variants, so it makes sense to use a certain key as a reference point rather than an arbitrary midpoint.

All this talk of the geometrical midpoint is rather irrelevant. A pianist will position oneself wherever it feels most central to the notes one normally plays. I think for most of the classical piano repertoire, middle C is pretty central. Most students begin with middle C and learn notes to either side of that - hence the tendency to see middle C as the central note. It's hardly a critical important point though. Sit where you please.

Finally, why the heck are we talking about this anyway?

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Re: Relationship advice. Please help. [Re: MathTeacher] #1675984
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I sit with middle C right in front of me. It was instinctive, not instructed, but never "corrected" smile

As for height issues, I have one friend who is 6'8" and his wife is 5'2". I have quite a few friends who are over 6' and they all seem to have short wives.



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Re: Relationship advice. Please help. [Re: MathTeacher] #1675988
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That was an interesting short wive broadcast.
On average one can C that these couples are of middle height.

Re: Relationship advice. Please help. [Re: MathTeacher] #1675989
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Maybe this subject deserves its own thread. I will start one and quote the responses so far as a sort of a 'poll', since my curiousity has been piqued (PW causes me to procrastinate way too much).

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The reason I have chosen middle C as my default sitting position is that most of the pieces I play are actually centered around middle C (in fact many pieces I play go as low as the first C note, but I almost never go as high as the C note on the other end, which is the second last C note). Don't you guys find that to be true? And, if true, isn't that the best reason to sit in front of middle C?

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Re: Relationship advice. Please help. [Re: MathTeacher] #1740133
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Well, guys. She got rid of me because she couldn't tolerate me spending so much time with my piano.

But the good news is that now I have more practice time. Going to make up for lost time now.

Re: Relationship advice. Please help. [Re: MathTeacher] #1740135
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If you mean that you and she were together (in some respect or another) for these 3+ months, it sounds like that's pretty good right there, although it's no surprise if you're not seeing it that way right now.....

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Originally Posted by Mark_C
If you mean that you and she were together (in some respect or another) for these 3+ months, it sounds like that's pretty good right there, although it's no surprise if you're not seeing it that way right now.....


I think a few days ago we had our 25th date, and our last. Someone in this thread said that I could make it past 10. Well you guys helped me make it possible, and I've learned a valuable lesson--my piano comes first.

Re: Relationship advice. Please help. [Re: MathTeacher] #1740139
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Dunno what anyone else will think but that doesn't exactly sound like the best lesson to me. But for sure it's great that we can always have our piano.

Re: Relationship advice. Please help. [Re: MathTeacher] #1740151
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It's ok, I get the feeling you are very young anyway. There is time enough for for all that. It is easier to develop your technique at a younger age, so if you are motivated to push hard now, you should take advantage of that motivation. I've had talented students give up on their music because they were too preoccupied with their teenage relationship ups and downs. It's rarely something you'd be glad you did - unless you end up marrying them, I suppose. Give yourself time.

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Hey MathTeacher,
I have a similar problem, reading this thread helped me understand that you can't ignore the things you like the most. Hopefully future piano students use the search tool like me and find some useful advices given at the beginning of this thread and the closure.

Conclusion: we can try but mostly it won't work...

I really hope you (and I) someday feel like enough and then have more time for other things like socializing

Sadly --joseche

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Originally Posted by MathTeacher
Incidentally, there is something very specific that I look for in women, which occurs in about 1 in 10,000, and she has it.



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We live for people, not for ourselves. If you really care about her I think you will have to choose between piano and chess. One cannot have everythig he or she wants. For you it is a very difficult choice but imagine how many women resigned from their careers to have a family. You may not even notic when time passes by and what will be left is only emptiness that you lived your life only for yourself.
My uncle had the same problem. He resigned from love and now he is a miserable alone old man. I see him very often on the verge of crying whne he sees my sis having a baby, or when he meets his friends who have families.

But well it is up to you. There were some people who never wanted to be in any serious relationship because it would be incompatibile with life they led like Hermann Hesse.

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This thread is over a year old - and MathTeacher hasn't posted on PW since last November. grin


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