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Scep - you accuse me of having only SOME of my favorite things? What about Coltrane? He just vamped! LOL.
Coltrane had a pedal section except when he changed for the dominant function. BUT he still played maj over the E in the second section ( I think...I'll have to listen again) I also have a theory that Coltrane actually used this tune as a stepping point to the coda for Naima. It sounds remarkably like the Gmaj Cmaj stuff of My Favorite Things, especially when you hear how the voice leading works in both tunes.
Originally Posted by jw
Sounds like you are very familiar with the tune. Usually I considered this a vocals tune and non of the instrumentalists soloed much on it. Once you lose the form on this you are f...d. (I have many live recordings of this to prove it).
I'm somewhat familiar with the tune, but I've got my share of recordings where I get lost too. It's ok though, since my bass player is pretty much lost from about bar 10 or so, so he has no idea where I am at the best of times.
Last edited by scepticalforumguy; 05/06/1202:40 PM. Reason: pedal section revised
Recordings of my recent solo piano and piano/keyboard trio jazz standards.
I guess it's a kind of "social networking" site for musicians, bands and venues. I've been on it for a couple of months but so far I've seen no benefit. But I'm not very good at stuff like that.
Scep, I recall Coltrane did the B section but not the C section. And then vamped on the D section. So not a good example unfortunately (in fact I confused my singer by saying listen to Coltrane).
Scep, I recall Coltrane did the B section but not the C section. And then vamped on the D section. So not a good example unfortunately (in fact I confused my singer by saying listen to Coltrane).
In any case both he and McCoy made a point of playing maj for an entire section to give the solos some form other than playing in Em.
I also like the Emaj section because it is the only 8 bars, at least in the head, that sound completely different than the rest of the tune, and can give someone (soloists, etc) a chance to regain their bearings in an otherwise large form.
Recordings of my recent solo piano and piano/keyboard trio jazz standards.
Well it helps when I look at the lyrics. It looks like it's no big deal to have that B section. It's the same melody (like A). I didn't realize that as the E major chord confused me.
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MARIA: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens Brown paper packages tied up with strings These are a few of my favorite things
Cream colored ponies and crisp apple strudels Door bells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings These are a few of my favorite things
Section I did not Play - but it really is just the same melody as above Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes Silver white winters that melt into Springs These are a few of my favorite things
Coltrane Skipped this but of course very important to singers When the dog bites When the bee stings When I'm feeling sad I simply remember my favorite things And then I don't feel so bad.
Brief music interruption. Here's Herbie/Wayne Shorter/Tony Williams/Ron Carter/Wallace Roney in an exciting version of So What. Great stuff. Just amazed watching Herbie's comping alone.
Herbie was featured last week on Sirius RealJazz. A whole weekend of nothing BUT Herbie. Then the Jazzday thing was more Herbie.
Coltrane Skipped this but of course very important to singers When the dog bites When the bee stings When I'm feeling sad I simply remember my favorite things And then I don't feel so bad.
Coltrane Skipped this but of course very important to singers When the dog bites When the bee stings When I'm feeling sad I simply remember my favorite things And then I don't feel so bad.
So, I see, after 5000 choruses he plays it once in the end at 12+ minutes in and this is supposed to tell me that it matches the original Sound of Music? Sorry for my mistake. I will tell the singer to copy this.
Mike, I never know if you're here to help or deride and say I made a mistake. The point is that Coltrane DOES NOT follow this form. Since he makes it DC al Fine then it is different. Even worse, he adds a vamp at the end of each section. So if anyone is looking at these changes and associating it with what Coltrate is playing, there is guesswork involved and not a good thing with a band that plays directly from the Real Book.
And Coltrane is even noted at the bottom. Maybe he played it like this in that Album. But definitely not in the My Favorite Things Album as you already noted.
It is hard to believe that Trane heard julie andrews and then decided that it would make a great tune to play. He was really into Chim chim cheree as well ....
According to studio myth (from the book A Love Supreme): "Some times we have to live with a tune for quite a while, and other times we just fall into it. a fella said "why don't you try this tune?" so I bought the song sheet and took it to rehearsal, and just like that, we fell right into it . . . we had the shape of it at the rehearsal, but it took us a little while to grow and get expanded and recognize the different parts and know just how we were going to play it, but it was a very short time."
"I try to pick a . . . song that sounds good and a song that might be familiar . . . and then I try to have parts in the song where we can play solo . . .in a modal perspective, more or less, you know? So therefore we end up playing a lot of vamps within a tune."
According to the book, the record company issued several different versions, where they had edited out parts and spliced it together. MFT was a "hit" so they got to sell 45 rpm singles.
That is interesting Chris. In the case of chim chim I think Duke recorded a 'mary poppins album' in 1964 and then Trane started playing it, but I can't find any other jazz versions of 'my favoritite things' before Trane's version. He may have been the first to give 'greensleeves' the jazz treatment as well.
It is hard to imagine MFT being a hit. Different times I guess.
(I have many live recordings of this to prove it).
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