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#1891036 - 05/04/12 10:33 AM Re: Best Bach Pianist [Re: TomJamesMcmahon]  
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IS there ANYTHING that Sokolov plays poorly? That is another pianist I was unaware of until reading about him on this forum. What a giant!

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#1891042 - 05/04/12 10:37 AM Re: Best Bach Pianist [Re: Forrest Halford]  
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IS there ANYTHING that Sokolov plays poorly? That is another pianist I was unaware of until reading about him on this forum. What a giant!

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#1891095 - 05/04/12 12:06 PM Re: Best Bach Pianist [Re: TomJamesMcmahon]  
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For my taste, Sokolov makes heavy weather of Chopin's 24 Preludes....


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For my taste, Sokolov makes heavy weather of Chopin's 24 Preludes....


Is that good?

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I go to Gould for 'research' purposes... own the BBC's DVD of the WTCs.


What? I have a feeling I won't like the answer.



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#1891376 - 05/04/12 07:59 PM Re: Best Bach Pianist [Re: timmyab]  
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I listen mainly to Schiff, Richter, Gulda and Fellner.
I wouldn't want to choose just one but if push came to shove I think Fellner is closest to my heart.I can't wait for him to record book two.


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#1891431 - 05/04/12 10:16 PM Re: Best Bach Pianist [Re: Damon]  
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Originally Posted by Damon
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For my taste, Sokolov makes heavy weather of Chopin's 24 Preludes....


Is that good?

I don't think bennevis thought so. Myself, I haven't heard Sokolov in the Chopin, so cannot comment, though I have admired other recordings of his.


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#1891745 - 05/05/12 01:23 PM Re: Best Bach Pianist [Re: argerichfan]  
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Originally Posted by argerichfan
Originally Posted by Damon
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For my taste, Sokolov makes heavy weather of Chopin's 24 Preludes....


Is that good?

I don't think bennevis thought so. Myself, I haven't heard Sokolov in the Chopin, so cannot comment, though I have admired other recordings of his.


His Chopin (on his CD of live performances at any rate - almost all his recordings are live) tend to labor excessively in the slow Preludes and Etudes - over-egging the pudding, or investing them with excessive gravitas (almost as if they are Last Testaments, or the slow movement of Beethoven's Hammerklavier), when a simpler flowing interpretation is required. He takes almost 10 minutes longer than most other pianists in the Preludes.

But in Russian repertoire, like Rach 3, as well as Bach, he really has few peers: what a pity one of his Rach 3 performances he recorded live for the BBC in the 1990s (including one from the BBC Proms) can't be put onto CD. And as you'd expect, he played the big cadenza magnificently.


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#1893108 - 05/07/12 06:06 PM Re: Best Bach Pianist [Re: TomJamesMcmahon]  
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I'm just a lowly adult beginner who recently started listening to classical music seriously. I must say that I absolutely love Angela Hewitt's Well-Tempered Clavier. I think she plays with grace, elegance, subtlety, and most of all, brings out the joyfulness in Bach's music. I saw her in concert last night and she was wonderful. I bought her "Bach Performance on the Piano" DVD and love it -- I have watched it three times already and probably will watch it many more times.

Also, I know that GG's '55 Goldbergs are supposed to be brilliant, but much of it just sounds like background music for a video game to me. I do really like his Italian Concerto though.

Finally, I am going to Bachfest Leipzig next month, and would appreciate any recommendations.

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Hewitt and Schiff are fantastic!

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Originally Posted by woodog
IS there ANYTHING that Sokolov plays poorly? That is another pianist I was unaware of until reading about him on this forum. What a giant!



Sokolov played possibly the weirdest recital I've ever been to, out of decades of going to concerts. Technically astonishing, but musically [censored] and perverse to the max. I was totally surprised, since I thought (and still think) very highly of a Chopin etude recording of his. A friend attending with me (a conservatory-trained pianist) said, afterwards, "Some concerts are life-enhancing. That was exactly the opposite - you felt like life was being sucked out of you."

So, yeah, he is amazing, but then there are days....

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#1893134 - 05/07/12 07:06 PM Re: Best Bach Pianist [Re: TomJamesMcmahon]  
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Where was that recital and what did he play?
Funny coincidence, but I also admire Sokolov based on his YT clips. But I happen to listen to his Franck's Prelude, Chorale and Fugue. I hated his LH and his whole concept of the piece. Next on my line up was Cortot playing the same piece with such grace and gorgeous tone that he debunked my personal Sokolov myth. Needless to say he remains an awesome pianist but not a universal one, I guess.

#1894430 - 05/09/12 08:49 PM Re: Best Bach Pianist [Re: RichterForever]  
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Originally Posted by RichterForever
Murray Perahia, hands down winner for me.


Amen. Schepkin's pretty darned good, too. And John Browning has an absolutely astonishing performance of the Italian Concerto. He plays the solo parts with the sort of freedom a solo performer would have, and the tutti parts the way an orchestra would. I've never heard anyone else do that.


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#1894632 - 05/10/12 07:05 AM Re: Best Bach Pianist [Re: TomJamesMcmahon]  
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I can't believe that I didn't mention this previously - especially since I've been listening to it a lot lately:

I've been quite taken by Jeffrey Biegel's Bach on a Steinway disc. In it, I find a wonderful sense of color, articulation, delineation - and drama.

All especially surprising to me, since I've heard (and maybe played) many of the pieces a gazillion times before.

There's probably another thread about it here somewhere - he's a member. I'm sort of wishing for a Vol 2.......


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Here is a steel cage battle to the death between 5 very well known pianists, side by side, playing the D major BK 1 prelude. I found this to be an interesting and entertaining listen.

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I don't see how one can say someone is "best"; perhaps just which version or approach you prefer, if that. It's like saying which flower is best.

At one of my lessons recently, my teacher pulled out a handful of recordings of the Bach P&F I'm working on and we listened to them together while he pointed out what he liked or what was interesting about each of them. Each was distinctly different. This was both entertaining and educational, but the point wasn't to choose the "best"; rather, to hear how different intelligences process the same music. There is no one right (or wrong!) way to play it.


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Originally Posted by Piano Again
my teacher pulled out a handful of recordings of the Bach P&F I'm working on and we listened to them together while he pointed out what he liked or what was interesting about each of them. Each was distinctly different. This was both entertaining and educational, but the point wasn't to choose the "best"; rather, to hear how different intelligences process the same music.


What an excellent lesson that must have been.


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Originally Posted by timmyab
I listen mainly to Schiff, Richter, Gulda and Fellner.
I wouldn't want to choose just one but if push came to shove I think Fellner is closest to my heart.I can't wait for him to record book two.


Wow, thanks. I hadn't heard from him and it's truly marvelous. Too bad this recording isn't on Itunes!

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Originally Posted by Piano Again
my teacher pulled out a handful of recordings of the Bach P&F I'm working on and we listened to them together while he pointed out what he liked or what was interesting about each of them. Each was distinctly different. This was both entertaining and educational, but the point wasn't to choose the "best"; rather, to hear how different intelligences process the same music.


What an excellent lesson that must have been.


Yes - one of many with this teacher.

#1895571 - 05/11/12 11:56 PM Re: Best Bach Pianist [Re: GeorgeB]  
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How could a musician hate another one. You might not like the way he interprets, RIGHT?


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Originally Posted by Piano Again
I don't see how one can say someone is "best"; perhaps just which version or approach you prefer, if that. It's like saying which flower is best.

At one of my lessons recently, my teacher pulled out a handful of recordings of the Bach P&F I'm working on and we listened to them together while he pointed out what he liked or what was interesting about each of them. Each was distinctly different. This was both entertaining and educational, but the point wasn't to choose the "best"; rather, to hear how different intelligences process the same music. There is no one right (or wrong!) way to play it.


I like that "how different intelligences process the same music" line. It's funny how using the word "intelligences" instead of "musicians" or "pianists" gives it such a different spin - pragmatically, they are all the same.


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When I'm learning a new P&F, I'll go to iTunes and download as many different performers as I can find, but I find myself returning to Gould, Hewitt and Schiff again and again. I like Gould for his creative interpretation, Hewitt for her precision and attention to detail and Schiff for his sheer virtuosoness (sorry, I made that word up..)

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Originally Posted by LadyChen
When I'm learning a new P&F, I'll go to iTunes and download as many different performers as I can find...


Why?



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she's pretty excellent but i really like the alacrity of Gould


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Originally Posted by pogorelich
ROSALYN TURECK.

I like Tureck a lot also, but now that I see her name all in caps, I am strangely compelled to agree with you.

Originally Posted by apple*
she's pretty excellent but i really like the alacrity of Gould

Hmm.....although Pogo's caps were oddly compelling, I love the word alacrity, so I am once again on the Gould bandwagon.


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she's pretty excellent but i really like the alacrity of Gould


They're different. Can't really compare them. They're both very unique.



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Originally Posted by Pogorelich.
ROSALYN TURECK.


Most definitely. Partitas in particular...


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Love Tureck and Fischer. There are not too many recordings, but if you can find them, those of Kapell and Lipatti are also extraordinary.

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