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One dealer has told me that the CA-63 is being replaced by CA-65 this month. Another says he knows nothing about it. Have anyone heard about the new model?
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A google search shows that your post is the only online mention of the CA-65.
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A google search shows that your post is the only online mention of the CA-65. I tried doing that as well, nothing else turned up.
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It would make sense, in this Sloooow Mooooving World of DP's, an announcement at NAMM seems reasonable instead of a summertime splash. Are sales of the CA63/CA93 sagging? I doubt it.
But, here are features I would like to see ...
- No dangling cords (63) but runways on the back for both - Ability to export all your Custom Settings to a USB Drive - A Third Sensor - Sensors replaced with Optical or Infrared - A "Real" Action based on their ABS Design and Technician Adjustable - 256 Polyphony or Why not 512 and get done with it? - Virtual Technician - Whole Keyboard and Note by Note - Better Music Stand - Real Spruce-Plank Soundboard not vinyl/plywood - Low Range and Mid Range Soundboard Transducers - 100x2 instead of 50x2 Amps (93) - Low, Mid and High Range Amp section - Lcd Contrast Control and Cheekblock Led's Lcd On/Off - Transducer under Keyboard
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Good suggestions, McBuster, although I think if they did them all the price of a CA95 would be at least $1k more than the CA93 (probably more). Still, I'd buy one of if it had all that gear!
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It would make sense, in this Sloooow Mooooving World of DP's, an announcement at NAMM seems reasonable instead of a summertime splash. Are sales of the CA63/CA93 sagging? I doubt it.
But, here are features I would like to see ...
- No dangling cords (63) but runways on the back for both - Ability to export all your Custom Settings to a USB Drive - A Third Sensor - Sensors replaced with Optical or Infrared - A "Real" Action based on their ABS Design and Technician Adjustable - 256 Polyphony or Why not 512 and get done with it? - Virtual Technician - Whole Keyboard and Note by Note - Better Music Stand - Real Spruce-Plank Soundboard not vinyl/plywood - Low Range and Mid Range Soundboard Transducers - 100x2 instead of 50x2 Amps (93) - Low, Mid and High Range Amp section - Lcd Contrast Control and Cheekblock Led's Lcd On/Off - Transducer under Keyboard
192 Polyphony is more than enough for even two voices combined, however 256 would be ideal for any newer model DP. 512 would be only needed if you wanted to combine 4 voices on a DP and not have to worry about note drop-offs.
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For me, the Kawai deal breaker is the lack of triple sensor...I loved my CA-X (AWA-PRO I), but got rid of it simply because the action was sluggish, and trills were even harder due to the double sensor. I loved the solid feel of the all wood keys, simply like no other :P If Kawai releases a new action with a triple sensor, I'll very likely be making the change from Roland to Kawai (since I use my keyboard mainly as a controller, it's all about the action).
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- A "Real" Action based on their ABS Design and Technician Adjustable This is an interesting idea, but surely more appropriate for a hybrid piano than a digital piano? Kawai experimented with hybrid pianos in the late 90's with the HA11. Cheers, James x
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Everyone seems happy with the piano sounds then? No SUPHI sound engine?
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- A "Real" Action based on their ABS Design and Technician Adjustable This is an interesting idea, but surely more appropriate for a hybrid piano than a digital piano? I was thinking something half way, a hybrid between what we have in RM3 and the Kawai Grands Millenium. Where the Notch/LetOff was mechanical. The Action technician adjustable. Where note repetition was improved. But the Sensors and Digital portion remain.
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But, here are features I would like to see ... - A Third Sensor Agreed, and perhaps a somewhat lighter feeling action? Everyone seems happy with the piano sounds then? Not me, they (and Yamaha, Korg, etc.) seriously need to get rid of the looping.
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A must for any new make / model across the board: "An improved external sound system."
I think every manufacturer has to look really hard at that. They have all come a long way in regards to touch and feel, but for some reason the DP's lack in this area. At least get the sound quality to match that of using a good pair of headphones (ie as in CD quality sound). Positioning the speakers to a more piano realistic effect would be helpful too.
I can't see any reason why we can get really good sound out of a mid grade computer with a set of desk speakers, but when it comes to DP's the manufacturer's haven't done that.
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Yes, there is a CA-65 coming soon!
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In Europe, the new CA63 is coming in september. I would not know when it will arrive in the States though...
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I know this will sound stupid and impossible but it's just a dream of mine Why not Kawai cooperates with Modartt and put a simple Intel Atom CPU and whatever else is needed for running a very simple Linux and Pianoteq This will add about 150-200 Euro for the additional hardware and Pianoteq license but will open endless possibilities for tweaking the sound and the modeled part can be used alone or mixed with the sampled part, the Pianoteq sound can be upgraded. All this would certainly put V-Piano and SN under pressure I had a dream...
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I know this will sound stupid and impossible but it's just a dream of mine Why not Kawai cooperates with Modartt and put a simple Intel Atom CPU and whatever else is needed for running a very simple Linux and Pianoteq This will add about 150-200 Euro for the additional hardware and Pianoteq license but will open endless possibilities for tweaking the sound and the modeled part can be used alone or mixed with the sampled part, the Pianoteq sound can be upgraded. All this would certainly put V-Piano and SN under pressure I had a dream... It is interesting that you should suggest this. I layer Pianoteq and my CA63 and get what I consider endless options and great sounds.
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There seems to be an unwritten law that digital pianos (stage and stationary) should be based on 10 year old DSP/CPU and sample technology, with the V-Piano as one exception when it first was introduced in 2009. Even with very expensive top-of-the-line instruments like AvantGrand unnecessary comprimises are made (and obvious faults introduced) to save some money here and there. Not to sound all gloomy, but there is a lot of truth to this unfortunately..
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I've recently researched for building my own nettop PC. A motherboard with a built-in Atom CPU costs about 50 Euro and that's the end user price. Add to this the cheapest USB flash drive to install some trimmed Linux distro and buy Pianoteq Play for 99 Euro and you have a system ready to play Pianoteq for a total of about 150 Euro.
Yes, I know I can use a netbook and connect it externally, but a manufacturer integrated solution will be easier to use since it will switch on with the Power ON button and can be controlled via the piano buttons and display.
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