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#1889952 - 05/02/12 10:29 AM Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2  
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Here's another recording I just made. It's Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2. Comments and suggestions are welcome.

PS Sorry for the last note. It was much louder than I intended it to be.



"It always seems impossible until it's done."
#1889966 - 05/02/12 10:49 AM Re: Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2 [Re: OrpheusEF]  
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Really nice playing and phrasing. In the 1st and last sections I'm hearing a lot of hesitation between phrases, and I think the tempo should be more even. Great middle section. I think I heard a few notes played at the wrong beat.



#1890336 - 05/03/12 06:23 AM Re: Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2 [Re: PianogrlNW]  
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Thanks for listening, PianogrlNW. Would you mind explaining what you mean by 'hesitation between phrases'? I'm not sure I understand.


"It always seems impossible until it's done."
#1890349 - 05/03/12 07:15 AM Re: Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2 [Re: OrpheusEF]  
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very nice it seems you have worked on it a lot, do you have to jump from fsharp to a? in the opening

#1890458 - 05/03/12 10:57 AM Re: Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2 [Re: OrpheusEF]  
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Originally Posted by OrpheusEF
Thanks for listening, PianogrlNW. Would you mind explaining what you mean by 'hesitation between phrases'? I'm not sure I understand.


Yes, I should have been more specific. The hesitation tends to occur on the half beat after count 1 (1 +). For example, in measure 2 the D in the RH is played late. Same with measure 9 with the B in the LH and measure 10 with the D in the RH. It may be that you are playing the 1st and 3rd sections with rubato, but I don't think the piece was intended to be played that way.



#1890469 - 05/03/12 11:12 AM Re: Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2 [Re: OrpheusEF]  
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Very nice smile Love this piece. I'd like to hear a little more variation in dynamics from p to f...other than that it's really beautifully played! Bravo


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#1890583 - 05/03/12 03:21 PM Re: Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2 [Re: OrpheusEF]  
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Originally Posted by OrpheusEF
Thanks for listening, PianogrlNW. Would you mind explaining what you mean by 'hesitation between phrases'? I'm not sure I understand.


Try playing the first section of the piece with a metronome. It will be fairly obvious where the hesitations are occurring. smile Of course, I'm not suggesting that the piece should be played to a strict beat - far from it - but what you are doing now, particularly in the LH, tends to interfere with the natural flow of the music.

Here's an effective interpretation....

Radu Lupu
http://youtu.be/1h4Re5WBEAc







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#1890745 - 05/03/12 08:54 PM Re: Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2 [Re: Carey]  
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Thanks for all the comments. I wasn't aware that my tempo was off. Looks like I should use the metronome more. I really don't like practising with a metronome and I guess it shows.

@lisztchopin: Yes, I've been working on this piece on and off for a long time. I'm still not very happy with the voicing but decided to record it anyway as I didn't seem to get anywhere with it. I'll definitely come back to it later when my technique is more solid. As for the opening, I still can reach the a from f# so no, I didn't have to jump smile


"It always seems impossible until it's done."
#1896130 - 05/13/12 10:00 AM Re: Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2 [Re: OrpheusEF]  
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Quite nice. I do not know all those musical terms etc but I feel there is sth missing in your interpretation so I agree that what they say is right. Just practice more and it will be fine smile smile smile Practoce makes perfect as it is said hehe

#1898819 - 05/17/12 05:36 PM Re: Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2 [Re: OrpheusEF]  
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very nice stretch i wish i could wow

#1898998 - 05/18/12 02:07 AM Re: Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2 [Re: OrpheusEF]  
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PianogrlNW and Carey,

Imagine our friend from Jakarta playing this on a finely tuned grand piano of your choice with the lid fully open. I am betting that his phrasing would respond to the piano itself, and that his ears would be his guide.

OrpheusEF, this is beautiful playing! What people are saying about metronomes and hesitations have to do with your choice of rubato as it crystalized in this recording at the time it was made with this piano and its tuning. You are fine. Keep doing what you are doing!

--Andy


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but at least I'm slow.
#1899066 - 05/18/12 06:47 AM Re: Brahms Intermezzo Op. 118 no. 2 [Re: Cinnamonbear]  
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Thank you so much, Andy. Your kind words of encouragement really made me feel warm and fuzzy inside smile
Cheers,
O


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