Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!


SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Virtual Sheet Music
Download Sheet Music Instantly
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Sheet Music...
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Modern Piano Moving
Modern Piano Moving
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Spring 2017
(ad)
Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restorations and sales
Who's Online Now
58 registered members (agraffe, AprilE, Bachus, Beakybird, al reds, 14 invisible), 1,656 guests, and 5 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#1888198 - 04/29/12 01:28 AM Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge?  
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
J Joe Townley Offline
Full Member
J Joe Townley  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
Los Angeles
per Hr. I'm too embarrassed to call and ask. It sounds so mercenary; a piano student shouldn't be worried about cost when (s)he is studying with the best.

(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1888202 - 04/29/12 02:11 AM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,600
Opus_Maximus Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Opus_Maximus  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,600
Pollack is $350 an hour. No idea about Perry..

#1888485 - 04/29/12 05:04 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,981
Peter K. Mose Online content
1000 Post Club Member
Peter K. Mose  Online Content
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,981
Toronto, Ontario
Funny, I just saw John Perry yesterday, arriving from the US at a Toronto airport, assumedly for one of his regular teaching gigs at the Royal Conservatory's finishing school. He looked world-weary, or perhaps it was a bumpy flight.

What a bizarre life, teaching here and there constantly in master class format, for young people who are essentially finished pianists already. And doing this across N. America, where classical music means less and less all the time.


#1888489 - 04/29/12 05:22 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: Opus_Maximus]  
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
J Joe Townley Offline
Full Member
J Joe Townley  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
Los Angeles
Originally Posted by Opus_Maximus
Pollack is $350 an hour. No idea about Perry..


That crash was my glass jaw hitting the ground. I don't think brain surgeons make $350 an hour--for appointments, that is.

#1888506 - 04/29/12 06:00 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,515
ClsscLib Offline

Platinum Supporter until Jan 02 2013
ClsscLib  Offline

Platinum Supporter until Jan 02 2013


Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,515
Northern VA, U.S.
Originally Posted by Joey Townley
Originally Posted by Opus_Maximus
Pollack is $350 an hour. No idea about Perry..


That crash was my glass jaw hitting the ground. I don't think brain surgeons make $350 an hour--for appointments, that is.


Good music teachers are the most underpaid professionals (those paid by an hourly fee for a set period of time) of any I know. Actuaries, lawyers, accountants, business consultants, etc. all get more.

My theory is that this is because the "going rate" for most teachers is rooted in what parents are prepared to pay for a half-hour or hour of lessons for their kids, and that's not much.

I always insist on paying music teachers at least what I'd pay for an hour of therapy. The music lessons are always more therapeutic!


[Linked Image] [Linked Image][Linked Image]

"People may say I can't sing, but no one can ever say I didn't sing."

-- Florence Foster Jenkins
#1888508 - 04/29/12 06:03 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 21,353
Mark_C Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Mark_C  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 21,353
New York
Originally Posted by Joey Townley
That crash was my glass jaw hitting the ground. I don't think brain surgeons make $350 an hour--for appointments, that is.

They do, and more.

#1888517 - 04/29/12 06:29 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: Mark_C]  
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
J Joe Townley Offline
Full Member
J Joe Townley  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
Los Angeles
Well, I won't be taking piano lessons from Pollock anytime soon. Not that he'd even consider having me as a student anyway.....!

Last edited by Joey Townley; 04/29/12 06:30 PM.
#1888531 - 04/29/12 07:14 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,600
Opus_Maximus Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Opus_Maximus  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,600
I'll add that that is, however, about the highest rate I've ever heard for any private teacher. I'm guessing others, even Perry, would be lower, in the 200 or so range.

#1888567 - 04/29/12 08:59 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: Opus_Maximus]  
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
J Joe Townley Offline
Full Member
J Joe Townley  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
Los Angeles
And to think I was going to call and ask Pollock if the first lesson was free!!!!!! sick

#1888601 - 04/29/12 10:25 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Kreisler Offline
Kreisler  Offline


Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Iowa City, IA
Piano teaching is an odd economic model. The hourly rate usually looks pretty good. The problem is how many hours one can reasonably work and when those hours are.

$50/hour, which is pretty standard where I live, sounds good. But working a 30 hour week would likely mean working primarily after school (3pm-9pm Monday through Friday.) Scheduling that would be very difficult, and even if you could get 40 weeks per year of solid work, that nets you $60,000 a year.

And $60k a year is great, but consider that when compared to someone who works for some kind of company, you pay an additional 15% self-employment taxes, all of your own retirement and health benefits, and subtract all operating expenses from that.


"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

www.pianoped.com
www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
#1888636 - 04/30/12 12:09 AM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: Kreisler]  
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
J Joe Townley Offline
Full Member
J Joe Townley  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
Los Angeles
I'd bet my bottom dollar that most of that income doesn't even get reported because the parents can't deduct piano lessons. So 60k tax-free is the equivalent of over 100k gross.

#1888641 - 04/30/12 12:17 AM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,702
Minniemay Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Minniemay  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,702
CA
Uh, excuse me, but I report every dollar I earn as a piano teacher and so does every teacher I know. Why would you even think that?


B.A., Piano, Piano Pegagogy, Music Ed.
M.M., Piano
#1888666 - 04/30/12 01:49 AM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: Minniemay]  
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
J Joe Townley Offline
Full Member
J Joe Townley  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
Los Angeles
Originally Posted by Minniemay
Uh, excuse me, but I report every dollar I earn as a piano teacher and so does every teacher I know. Why would you even think that?


You and your friends are to be commended, Minnie. But if 100% of self-employed people who are in an occupation that doesn't require itemization on their clients' Schedule A and the money is put directly into their hands by their clients....well, let's just say that not everyone is as honest as you and your friends are. It's the reason why the IRS annually reports a tax deficit of anywhere from a quarter to nearly half a TRILLION dollars in unreported and under-reported taxes.

#1888863 - 04/30/12 01:33 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,639
John v.d.Brook Offline
7000 Post Club Member
John v.d.Brook  Offline
7000 Post Club Member

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,639
Olympia, Washington, USA
Originally Posted by Joey Townley
I'd bet my bottom dollar that most of that income doesn't even get reported because the parents can't deduct piano lessons. So 60k tax-free is the equivalent of over 100k gross.

Can't speak for other professions, but remember, the IRS can peak at your bank statements, so don't think fudging here is a good idea. Like others, I keep detailed and scrupulously accurate records. The very last thing I want to be doing is sitting in an IRS office being audited.


"Those who dare to teach must never cease to learn." -- Richard Henry Dann
Full-time Private Piano Teacher offering Piano Lessons in Olympia, WA. www.mypianoteacher.com
Certified by the American College of Musicians; member NGPT, MTNA, WSMTA, OMTA
#1888865 - 04/30/12 01:36 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,639
John v.d.Brook Offline
7000 Post Club Member
John v.d.Brook  Offline
7000 Post Club Member

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,639
Olympia, Washington, USA
Originally Posted by Joey Townley
per Hr. I'm too embarrassed to call and ask. It sounds so mercenary; a piano student shouldn't be worried about cost when (s)he is studying with the best.

There are other fine teachers available, but rates are realistic. My current teacher, N. Jane Tan, charges $180/hr. And it's a 2 hr drive for me, each way. It's worth every penny of it.


"Those who dare to teach must never cease to learn." -- Richard Henry Dann
Full-time Private Piano Teacher offering Piano Lessons in Olympia, WA. www.mypianoteacher.com
Certified by the American College of Musicians; member NGPT, MTNA, WSMTA, OMTA
#1888875 - 04/30/12 01:52 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Kreisler Offline
Kreisler  Offline


Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Iowa City, IA
I never said $60k tax-free. I mentioned that you have to pay extra self-employment tax out of that, and most teachers I know report every penny.

Do you have other information/experience, or are you just guessing?

Originally Posted by Joey Townley
I'd bet my bottom dollar that most of that income doesn't even get reported because the parents can't deduct piano lessons. So 60k tax-free is the equivalent of over 100k gross.


"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

www.pianoped.com
www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
#1888975 - 04/30/12 05:36 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: Kreisler]  
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
J Joe Townley Offline
Full Member
J Joe Townley  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
Los Angeles
I can see I've stepped on a lot of toes with my rash remark and I apologize. I didn't mean to imply that all piano teachers are dishonest. But it would be naive to believe that every piano teacher in America who deals on a cash-basis reports every dollar they earn. That level of honesty just doesn't exist in any profession. But piano teachers would definitely be more honest than the average building contractor because pianists....well, are pianists. But to answer your question, Kreisler, no I don't have any data to support my brash assertion. I was just generalizing. Probably mistakenly. blush

Last edited by Joey Townley; 04/30/12 05:37 PM.
#1889073 - 04/30/12 09:13 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: ClsscLib]  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 21,353
Mark_C Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Mark_C  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 21,353
New York
Originally Posted by ClsscLib
Good music teachers are the most underpaid professionals (those paid by an hourly fee for a set period of time) of any I know. Actuaries, lawyers, accountants, business consultants, etc. all get more.....

I agree, but I'd say that good people in any of those fields are underpaid -- if they're really good. My profession too. We're overpaid if we're mediocre or bad, but underpaid if we're really good.

I've thought that every piano teacher I've had in the last 30 years has undercharged (and I've told them so!), except for the couple of them that I didn't think were much good (and who I saw just once).

#1889149 - 05/01/12 12:09 AM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Char [Re: John v.d.Brook]  
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,981
Peter K. Mose Online content
1000 Post Club Member
Peter K. Mose  Online Content
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,981
Toronto, Ontario
Originally Posted by John v.d.Brook

My current teacher, N. Jane Tan, charges $180/hr. And it's a 2 hr drive for me, each way. It's worth every penny of it.


John, are your lessons centred on pedagogy? Or on technique? Or on repertoire? IOW, are you studying with Ms. Tan as a piano teacher or as a pianist? Jane Tan was a name we all heard for a number of years, but mostly through her published materials aimed at young pianists.

She has slipped from my radar, but thanks for the memory jog!

Curious in Toronto


#1889277 - 05/01/12 07:43 AM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: Mark_C]  
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,515
ClsscLib Offline

Platinum Supporter until Jan 02 2013
ClsscLib  Offline

Platinum Supporter until Jan 02 2013


Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,515
Northern VA, U.S.
Originally Posted by Mark_C
Originally Posted by ClsscLib
Good music teachers are the most underpaid professionals (those paid by an hourly fee for a set period of time) of any I know. Actuaries, lawyers, accountants, business consultants, etc. all get more.....

I agree, but I'd say that good people in any of those fields are underpaid -- if they're really good. My profession too. We're overpaid if we're mediocre or bad, but underpaid if we're really good.

I've thought that every piano teacher I've had in the last 30 years has undercharged (and I've told them so!), except for the couple of them that I didn't think were much good (and who I saw just once).


Generally I agree; competition does set metes and bounds around what both the good and bad in any field can charge.

Part of being a good consumer is deciding when someone is really good and then making sure that that person realizes in every way how much you appreciate her professional performance. That's why I insist on paying good music teachers more than the rate they quote (and stop using bad ones). I do the same with other professionals.

That has less to do with generosity than with the consumer's self interest, but it's nice that it can be perceived as the former.


[Linked Image] [Linked Image][Linked Image]

"People may say I can't sing, but no one can ever say I didn't sing."

-- Florence Foster Jenkins
#1889769 - 05/02/12 01:57 AM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: ClsscLib]  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 21,353
Mark_C Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Mark_C  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 21,353
New York
Originally Posted by ClsscLib
....That's why I insist on paying good music teachers more than the rate they quote (and stop using bad ones). I do the same with other professionals....

I think you're unique. smile

I've sometimes wanted to do that, but never have....well actually in some 'special situations' I have, like when I spent 2 days with a former teacher to prepare for recitals and he didn't want to charge anything, and when teachers have given me double lessons but only wanted to charge the regular amount. But aside from those times, I felt it would actually be sort of an insult, in an odd way, to try to pay more -- as though telling them that their own pricing was wrong. And I think it basically would be. The most I've done in such situations was to express my gratitude and let them know (as you said) how much I got from their teaching (or whatever the service was) and express my great gratitude.

#1889838 - 05/02/12 07:17 AM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 35
stevenpn Offline
Full Member
stevenpn  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 35
Pasadena, CA
I studied with Daniel Pollack for 10 years at USC where I did my Bachelor's, Master's, and Doctorate with him. I also studied with him privately in his home studio for a few summers. What do you want to know? I'm only $50/lesson, by the way.

He used to give masterclasses every summer where students got about a full hour's lesson (albeit in front of a group), and it was fairly affordable. That might be a good way to go, if he's still doing that. I know he stopped giving that class for a while.










#1889903 - 05/02/12 10:07 AM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Char [Re: Peter K. Mose]  
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,639
John v.d.Brook Offline
7000 Post Club Member
John v.d.Brook  Offline
7000 Post Club Member

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,639
Olympia, Washington, USA
Originally Posted by Peter K. Mose
Originally Posted by John v.d.Brook

My current teacher, N. Jane Tan, charges $180/hr. And it's a 2 hr drive for me, each way. It's worth every penny of it.


John, are your lessons centred on pedagogy? Or on technique? Or on repertoire? IOW, are you studying with Ms. Tan as a piano teacher or as a pianist? Jane Tan was a name we all heard for a number of years, but mostly through her published materials aimed at young pianists.

She has slipped from my radar, but thanks for the memory jog!

Curious in Toronto

Primarily pedagogy. You know, she just happened to be in the right place at the right time, and had a chance to study with a number of the great early 20th century masters as well as Fleischer. She has a brilliant mind and memory, and can impart huge numbers of seemingly trivial technique details which all add up to greatly increasing the musical mastery of students. Our work divided into two stages - beginning students, getting them off on the right foot (so to speak) with hand technique, and high school repertoire for both ending students and those choosing to continue at conservatory.

But as they correctly say, you cannot teach effectively what you don't know, so she ends up teaching us as students as well. It is an amazing experience for those of us who participate, but humbling to be taking lessons on seemingly "elementary" material in front of a dozen or more of our peers, all of whom have advanced degrees and are actually accomplished pianists in their own right!


"Those who dare to teach must never cease to learn." -- Richard Henry Dann
Full-time Private Piano Teacher offering Piano Lessons in Olympia, WA. www.mypianoteacher.com
Certified by the American College of Musicians; member NGPT, MTNA, WSMTA, OMTA
#1889994 - 05/02/12 01:18 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Char [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,981
Peter K. Mose Online content
1000 Post Club Member
Peter K. Mose  Online Content
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,981
Toronto, Ontario
John, in other words these are group teaching situations. Master classes for piano teachers. Are these organized privately in the Seattle area? How often do they take place?

I'm suddenly floored by the math of this. You are paying $180 an hour, along with a dozen or more of your colleagues. That's over two thousand dollars an hour for Ms. Tan. Perhaps John Perry and Daniel Pollock should take lessons in career management from her!

#1890001 - 05/02/12 01:37 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: Mark_C]  
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,515
ClsscLib Offline

Platinum Supporter until Jan 02 2013
ClsscLib  Offline

Platinum Supporter until Jan 02 2013


Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,515
Northern VA, U.S.
Originally Posted by Mark_C
Originally Posted by ClsscLib
....That's why I insist on paying good music teachers more than the rate they quote (and stop using bad ones). I do the same with other professionals....

I think you're unique. smile

I've sometimes wanted to do that, but never have....well actually in some 'special situations' I have, like when I spent 2 days with a former teacher to prepare for recitals and he didn't want to charge anything, and when teachers have given me double lessons but only wanted to charge the regular amount. But aside from those times, I felt it would actually be sort of an insult, in an odd way, to try to pay more -- as though telling them that their own pricing was wrong. And I think it basically would be. The most I've done in such situations was to express my gratitude and let them know (as you said) how much I got from their teaching (or whatever the service was) and express my great gratitude.


I'll confess I got pushback for this initially from teachers, but it didn't stop me.

I recognize that I am highly dependent on smart professionals who give me great help, both in my music studies and in my day job. I want help from the best in their fields, giving me THEIR best, perhaps in part because they know I recognize, appreciate, and value their assistance.

I've done a lot of dumb things in life, and a lot that haven't worked, but this attitude and practice -- what some might call "overappreciating" skilled and valued professionals -- has never failed me.


[Linked Image] [Linked Image][Linked Image]

"People may say I can't sing, but no one can ever say I didn't sing."

-- Florence Foster Jenkins
#1890002 - 05/02/12 01:39 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Char [Re: Peter K. Mose]  
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 21,353
Mark_C Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Mark_C  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 21,353
New York
Originally Posted by Peter K. Mose
I'm suddenly floored by the math of this. You are paying $180 an hour, along with a dozen or more of your colleagues. That's over two thousand dollars an hour for Ms. Tan....

I think you got lost in the math. grin

First (and mainly), what's with the multiplication? It seemed that the rate was for a private lesson, not a master class. And also, in master classes you don't usually (if ever) have that many people playing.

#1890038 - 05/02/12 03:38 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Char [Re: Peter K. Mose]  
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,639
John v.d.Brook Offline
7000 Post Club Member
John v.d.Brook  Offline
7000 Post Club Member

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,639
Olympia, Washington, USA
Originally Posted by Peter K. Mose
John, in other words these are group teaching situations. Master classes for piano teachers. Are these organized privately in the Seattle area? How often do they take place?

I'm suddenly floored by the math of this. You are paying $180 an hour, along with a dozen or more of your colleagues. That's over two thousand dollars an hour for Ms. Tan. Perhaps John Perry and Daniel Pollock should take lessons in career management from her!

No, they are not group lessons. Each one of us gets an hour, and we each pay for an hour. But we sit in on each others' lessons. You can learn a lot about teaching and musicianship this way.


"Those who dare to teach must never cease to learn." -- Richard Henry Dann
Full-time Private Piano Teacher offering Piano Lessons in Olympia, WA. www.mypianoteacher.com
Certified by the American College of Musicians; member NGPT, MTNA, WSMTA, OMTA
#1890057 - 05/02/12 04:22 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Char [Re: J Joe Townley]  
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,981
Peter K. Mose Online content
1000 Post Club Member
Peter K. Mose  Online Content
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,981
Toronto, Ontario
1. So Jane Tan is teaching a dozen or more hours of these piano teacher lessons back to back, John? I don't get it. That sounds as maniacal as John Perry. Do you all go out for meals together, or does Jane spring for a pizza and beer?

2. Are some of the teachers just auditing, and do they pay less?

3. Is this held in a piano teacher's home? An institution? A retail piano dealership?




#1890066 - 05/02/12 04:42 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Char [Re: Peter K. Mose]  
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,639
John v.d.Brook Offline
7000 Post Club Member
John v.d.Brook  Offline
7000 Post Club Member

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,639
Olympia, Washington, USA
Originally Posted by Peter K. Mose
1. So Jane Tan is teaching a dozen or more hours of these piano teacher lessons back to back, John? I don't get it. That sounds as maniacal as John Perry. Do you all go out for meals together, or does Jane spring for a pizza and beer?

2. Are some of the teachers just auditing, and do they pay less?

3. Is this held in a piano teacher's home? An institution? A retail piano dealership?

Well, it's over 3 days; we have other activities, such as piano teams and student master classes, plus teacher lectures. We normally brown bag lunch and dine somewhere near the Westlake Center. Sherman-Clay (Steinway) provides music teachers in the Puget Sound area wonderful offerings activities such as this, and we get to play on some superb instruments as a result. Auditing is possible, if you've studied with her some time, but I don't think anyone is doing this. For the record, teaching 6 - 8 hrs straight is not a chore for me, and probably not for many teachers. It's what we love doing.


"Those who dare to teach must never cease to learn." -- Richard Henry Dann
Full-time Private Piano Teacher offering Piano Lessons in Olympia, WA. www.mypianoteacher.com
Certified by the American College of Musicians; member NGPT, MTNA, WSMTA, OMTA
#1890069 - 05/02/12 04:57 PM Re: Does Anyone Know What John Perry and Daniel Pollock Charge? [Re: stevenpn]  
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
J Joe Townley Offline
Full Member
J Joe Townley  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
Los Angeles
Originally Posted by stevenpn
I studied with Daniel Pollack for 10 years at USC where I did my Bachelor's, Master's, and Doctorate with him. I also studied with him privately in his home studio for a few summers. What do you want to know? I'm only $50/lesson, by the way.

He used to give masterclasses every summer where students got about a full hour's lesson (albeit in front of a group), and it was fairly affordable. That might be a good way to go, if he's still doing that. I know he stopped giving that class for a while.











I think in his interview he said he was ill or something for a long while and out of action. So in your last year of studying with him what was he charging per hour?

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Ken Knapp 

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


(ad)
Pianoteq
Grotrian Concert
Royal
for Pianoteq out now
What's Hot!!
Why Do You Play The Piano?
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Kawai KS-5F
by maki6664. 05/29/17 08:37 PM
Acousticsamples C7 $49
by bsntn99. 05/29/17 06:03 PM
Help with big chords in Liszt Mephisto Waltz no.1
by LawlAoux. 05/29/17 04:49 PM
Steinway competitor
by BruceD. 05/29/17 04:32 PM
Worst last notes of a piece to miss
by pianoloverus. 05/29/17 04:22 PM
(ad)
Sheet Music Plus
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Report Problems With New Forums
Report Problems with New Forums Here!
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics179,964
Posts2,631,102
Members87,925
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0