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#1327884 - 12/17/09 10:37 PM Re: Want an engineer to make a 49-key weighted action digita [Re: signa]  
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Why not consider the Studiologic 49-key hammer action controller?, I'll bet most travel with a net or notebook--add a sampled piano, and you're in business. Here's a link:

http://www.studiologic.net/vmk-149.html


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#1328045 - 12/18/09 03:12 AM Re: Want an engineer to make a 49-key weighted action digital keyboard [Re: fogwall]  
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Originally Posted by fogwall
So you don't like M-audio's 49-key variant?

Just checking out M-Adio Key Studio 49i , it doesn't seem to say if the keys are weighted, or graded, does anyone know please?
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#1331313 - 12/22/09 09:16 AM Re: Want an engineer to make a 49-key weighted action digita [Re: signa]  
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Originally Posted by signa
i don't know why people drag this old thread out again, while they could just post a new one.

but anyway, i suddenly got an idea (after reading the last 2 posts), that DP makers can actually build a DP with an integrated case where the bottom part is a part of keyboard body and top part is a cover which can be removed when playing. if such a DP is built, then all you have to do is to put the top case on and take the whole thing (which is a flight case) for travel.

i think this is a good idea, and you just need a DP but not an extra case for travel.


Yes, that is a very good idea, one that I have also had in mind these past several years. Since neither Yamaha nor Roland want to pick up the ball, perhaps we could petition Honda to bring one to market. shocked

My idea of the perfect travel piano would be one with a built-in case, an historically correct 61-key compass with hammer-action keys, and built-in rechargeable battery. I am quite certain there is a sufficient market for such an instrument to recoup development costs, if a company already involved in DP technology were to commit to it.

My gripe about currently available 61-key instruments: why is middle C not in the middle? This is not historically correct, and precludes one from playing so much early classical music, like all of Mozart and Haydn and early Beethoven up to the Op. 49 sonatas. Not to mention Bach, Handel and Scarlatti.

I make my living as a merchant mariner, and dragging around an 88-key DP just to be able to keep my technique up is such a hassle. tired

I know this is an old thread, but obviously it covers a topic that just won't go away.

Cheers,

Craig


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#1331345 - 12/22/09 10:04 AM Re: Want an engineer to make a 49-key weighted action digita [Re: ctnski]  
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http://www.fatar.com/Studiologic/Pages/VMK_149.htm

This one claims to be:
49 full size keys with Grand Touch® Hammer Action

-under 20 lbs
-don't know if it is still available

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#1331570 - 12/22/09 02:34 PM Re: Want an engineer to make a 49-key weighted action digital keyboard [Re: crusadar]  
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Originally Posted by crusadar
Originally Posted by fogwall
So you don't like M-audio's 49-key variant?

Just checking out M-Adio Key Studio 49i , it doesn't seem to say if the keys are weighted, or graded, does anyone know please?
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In the m-audio line, the "Axion" and "key station" series are both semi-weighted" the others are non-weighted. So if yu want the short keyboard the best you can do is semi-weighted. An I'm pretty sure they mean this literally too in that they are not hammer action keys but only have small weights glued to the under sides of the keys and key return is via a spring.

The studiologic controls has fatar keys, I think Korg uses these and they are acceptable.

To the person who wanted middle C in the center: You can transpose the keyboard in octaves and assign midel C to any C key you want.

About making a cover, so that the keyboard is it's own flight case: the problenm is the lack of shock resistance. A flight (by definition and ATA requirements) case needs to provide two things (1) Two inches of padding between the case shell and the item inside the case and (2) a water tight seal. If you don't have these two things you can't make a damage claim and insurance will not pay. What you would have is a "road case" that might be good enough as long as you never checked it as baggage.

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#1880791 - 04/16/12 07:13 PM Re: Want an engineer to make a 49-key weighted action digital keyboard [Re: Peter_G_Moll]  
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Peter Moll, are you still using the 53-key Yamaha you described in this old thread?

Still happy with it?

Have you come across any better alternatives?

If the VAX-77 had been available then, would you have considered it instead of doing custom modifications?


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#2575254 - 10/01/16 12:49 AM I have a resource for "chopping" digital pianos [Re: Peter_G_Moll]  
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I have seen a number of requests for this so thought I'd offer my services. I am (was) an electrical engineer and working rock and roll KB player until spine surgery recently forced me into early retirement and now, looking for something I can do that combines my passions. I've looked at my Rolands and those are chop-able, so..... if there's somebody out there who would like explore shortening a KB and are serious (in having somebody do it right....a nice road worthy job....not a cheap hack job), send me an email and lets hear what you're thinking.

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Retired Elect Engineer / performing rock KB player. Recently, I've read several posts looking for someone to "chop" a high end weighted hammer KB to less than 88 keys. I've begun a service to "chop" your digital pianos to any key length you need. For more info, please contact wildwest2a@aol.com
#2575445 - 10/01/16 08:30 PM Re: I have a resource for "chopping" digital pianos [Re: JimK]  
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Originally Posted by JimK
I have seen a number of requests for this so thought I'd offer my services. I am (was) an electrical engineer and working rock and roll KB player until spine surgery recently forced me into early retirement and now, looking for something I can do that combines my passions. I've looked at my Rolands and those are chop-able, so..... if there's somebody out there who would like explore shortening a KB and are serious (in having somebody do it right....a nice road worthy job....not a cheap hack job), send me an email and lets hear what you're thinking.


Could you do this with a Casio PX160 or 360 (maybe not, because of speaker placement), or the PX5S?

They have a decent action and are light -- chopped down to 76 keys they'd be easier to transport than my current RD-64, which is heavy and a lot longer than it has to be for only 64 keys.

If not, which Roland model do you recommend as a starting point, and what are you estimating as the final weight, chopped to 61 or 76 keys?


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#2575456 - 10/01/16 09:03 PM Re: I have a resource for "chopping" digital pianos [Re: Peter_G_Moll]  
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Instead of chopping a conventional hammer action down to 49 keys, I would like to see an ASPK/ESPK with 7/8 sized keys. This way one can fit 88 keys into a 76s-EP-sized enclosure. Or 73 keys into a 61s standard synth sized casing.

Sadly, it's either 45 inches of hammer action only or nothing at all.

#2626814 - 03/25/17 11:51 AM Re: Want an engineer to make a 49-key weighted action digita [Re: Peter_G_Moll]  
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http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre..._Yamaha_P-115_79-Key_Ke.html#Post2626796

The answer to all of your questions. A couple of years late on this thread, but I can customize a Yamaha P-115 to any key size.

#2626831 - 03/25/17 12:38 PM Re: Want an engineer to make a 49-key weighted action digital keyboard [Re: Peter_G_Moll]  
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http://www.vaxmidi.com/

Just order one of these ^^

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#2626832 - 03/25/17 12:39 PM Re: Want an engineer to make a 49-key weighted action digital keyboard [Re: Peter_G_Moll]  
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successor to the VAX77


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#2626834 - 03/25/17 12:54 PM Re: Want an engineer to make a 49-key weighted action digital keyboard [Re: Goss]  
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Unfortunately, this weighs almost double what my modified P-115 weighs. And its much bigger to carry around.

Plus, for the pianist who wants some built in piano sounds, the VAXMidi is just a controller, so no sounds are built in. The P-115 has built in speakers, some sounds to choose from, and can function as a controller.

#2626848 - 03/25/17 01:33 PM Re: Want an engineer to make a 49-key weighted action digital keyboard [Re: Peter_G_Moll]  
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ah yes, there is that.. nvm then- carry on^^


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