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Input and Experiences with Charles Walter 6'4???
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Just played an incredible Charles Walter 6'4. Action was amazing and clarity was great, especially in the bass... read about the free floating design of the soundboard and it showed... it really did sound like a bigger piano.

Also, it was perfect for Bach as it was just transparent enough that the individual lines didn't drown each other out. Just a great experience.

Was looking for anyone's objective experiences with this rare find.

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Still trying to find one to play. I've been told they sound similar to Mason & Hamlin. Any thoughts on this comparison?


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Yes. They're nice, well balanced instruments. Perfect for the home, unlike so many other grands.

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Originally Posted by notbach
Still trying to find one to play. I've been told they sound similar to Mason & Hamlin. Any thoughts on this comparison?


I don't think so. M&H has a big sound, usually. Charles Walters are more intimate.

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Theodore Slutz #1872233 04/01/12 08:58 PM
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I just found these recordings on pianostreet. Notice how focused the sound is.

http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/inde...7f6bcc7c30921f5977fcb9&topic=24074.0


Charles Walter Model W (190)


“The aim and final end of all music should be none other than the glory of God and the refreshment of the soul.” J.S. Bach


"I just want to know, if we came from monkeys and apes, WHY DO WE STILL HAVE MONKEYS AND APES?" George Carlin
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Theodore Slutz #1872262 04/01/12 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Theodore Slutz
Just played an incredible Charles Walter 6'4. Action was amazing and clarity was great, especially in the bass... read about the free floating design of the soundboard and it showed... it really did sound like a bigger piano.


The Walter 190 does not have the free floating soundboard the model 175 does. Just the same they both do have a great bass for the size.

Nice to hear you enjoyed your experience.



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thanks for the info Rod.

Yeah it was great... i love masons but i feel the overwhelming volume, which i actually love, can tend to drown out interweaving voices. The walter was really balanced for it.


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“The aim and final end of all music should be none other than the glory of God and the refreshment of the soul.” J.S. Bach


"I just want to know, if we came from monkeys and apes, WHY DO WE STILL HAVE MONKEYS AND APES?" George Carlin
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... interesting... thought there would be more responses on this subject considering walter pianos rank so high on the piano buyer guide.


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“The aim and final end of all music should be none other than the glory of God and the refreshment of the soul.” J.S. Bach


"I just want to know, if we came from monkeys and apes, WHY DO WE STILL HAVE MONKEYS AND APES?" George Carlin
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I tried one before but didn't get to spend a lot of time on it. To me it had a peculiar tone... not very pure yet it wasn't out of tune either. Liked it much better than the 1500 but still not my cup of tea.

Action was on the light side. Nice.

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Theodore Slutz #1873675 04/04/12 01:39 PM
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I only played one. It was a nice piano, but too bright for my taste and the keys didn't seem to travel downward as far as other pianos. Nice, light action, though. I really wanted to like the Walter, but I ended up choosing a Kawai.


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I tried one CW190 and was very impressed. The bass was simply much better than I'd ever heard in a piano of that length. The piano was also well balanced throughout the scale. If you tried a CW190 that sounded too bright, it needed voicing. BTW, at the time I played it, my teacher had a Steinway L, and I thought the CW was a much nicer piano.

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I once tried a Walter 175 at a PTG convention on the West Coast. It was terrible!!!!
The dealer that supplied it for a class did nothing to make the piano sing. It was bright and the regulation was very strange. I was embarrassed the piano had been shown.

With anything dealers can make improvements or mistakes depending on their skill or tastes.

Personally I believe the Walter company makes a fantastic product. When Steinway dealers stopped carrying Walter pianos it really hurt their exposure to the market.

Steinway Hall use to carry Walters but that was before the Boston came out and before the Walters made grands.
Once the grands came out Steinway dealers dropped the line all over the continent.


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Its been awhile since I played a 190, but I was impressed. I had some Beethoven with me and I liked what it did for Ludwig. I particularly remember its "tight" but substantial bass. I don't feel that tightness with the M & H's I have played. I never see a 190 on the used market. I wonder how many have been made, and whether there are still regular production numbers of this model coming out.

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Originally Posted by Theodore Slutz
Just played an incredible Charles Walter 6'4. Action was amazing and clarity was great, especially in the bass... read about the free floating design of the soundboard and it showed... it really did sound like a bigger piano.

Also, it was perfect for Bach as it was just transparent enough that the individual lines didn't drown each other out. Just a great experience.

Was looking for anyone's objective experiences with this rare find.

Thanks.


Hey Theodore:

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A friend of mine bought a CW 190 about three years ago, and I had the privilege of helping him pick it out. I got to play it quite a bit. It's a beautiful instrument, nice action,beautiful tone. To my ear it's closer to M&H than Steinway. Perhaps not quite as "big" a sound as M&H but not as restrained as, say, an Estonia.

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holy *^%*^% furtwangler... that's an amazing price... thanks for the info.


Charles Walter Model W (190)


“The aim and final end of all music should be none other than the glory of God and the refreshment of the soul.” J.S. Bach


"I just want to know, if we came from monkeys and apes, WHY DO WE STILL HAVE MONKEYS AND APES?" George Carlin

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