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distinguishing between Cm7 and Cm9 and Ab7 and Ab9 #1870387
03/29/12 12:01 PM
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Hello all.I am learning the left hand chords of the piece"Sabor a mi" in the key of Bb.In the right hand I am playing all the melody.What notes do I have to play with just the left hand so that a Cm7 chord would sound different than a Cm9?Also with a Ab7 and a Ab9 chord?After you answer this,I will be able to apply a rule so that in the future I can figure this out for just about any chords.Can you give me a rule when a 3rd or 5th can be left left out of a chord so that there is a free finger to play the 9th note?I tried moving the 9th of these cords to the 2nd degree,but it did'nt sound right.Thank you.

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Re: distinguishing between Cm7 and Cm9 and Ab7 and Ab9 [Re: Tango] #1870404
03/29/12 12:29 PM
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tango :

Also try posting your question in the "Pianist Corner - Non Classical."

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Re: distinguishing between Cm7 and Cm9 and Ab7 and Ab9 [Re: Tango] #1870447
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Originally Posted by Tango
Hello all.I am learning the left hand chords of the piece"Sabor a mi" in the key of Bb.In the right hand I am playing all the melody.What notes do I have to play with just the left hand so that a Cm7 chord would sound different than a Cm9?Also with a Ab7 and a Ab9 chord?After you answer this,I will be able to apply a rule so that in the future I can figure this out for just about any chords.Can you give me a rule when a 3rd or 5th can be left left out of a chord so that there is a free finger to play the 9th note?I tried moving the 9th of these cords to the 2nd degree,but it did'nt sound right.Thank you.


The chord may be marked 7 or 9 because the melody note is the 7 or 9. Generally, that note shouldn't be duplicated in the left and right hands. If you do have to drop a note, the 5th is often omitted.

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Re: distinguishing between Cm7 and Cm9 and Ab7 and Ab9 [Re: Tango] #1870450
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Don't worry about "the rules." Just play what sounds right to you. Is "Sabor a Mi" non classical? Upon googling it, I guess it is, nice flamenco touch in this rendition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQCo3rczB-w


Last edited by daviel; 03/29/12 01:27 PM. Reason: googled it

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