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#1863170 - 03/16/12 03:07 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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I finally memorized "Una Furtiva Lagrima"'s piano part, with some of the vocal transposed to piano in the blank areas. I just have two or three tough transitions to 4-finger chords that foul me in the middle and end of the thing, but I have it memorized, but not smooth.


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#1863176 - 03/16/12 03:29 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Gee, sometimes I feel so out of place here. Where's the Adult Total Novice forum? smile

I've been self-teaching on-again/off-again for about a year, and I'm still learning the basics. But I did learn the bass line to Money (Pink Floyd) and Seven Nation Army (White Stripes) the other day. Not songs I intend to ever play to completion, but the parts I learned are so easy.

It's just nice to accomplish something outside of the beginner books and lessons once in a while, even if they are simple little riffs.

Also worked on the first 10 (or so) LH bars of Adagio (Suzanne Ciani), but I won't dare say I've learned it yet.

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#1863186 - 03/16/12 03:42 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Congratulations, cheechako! I don't know Seven Nation Army, but I love the relentless beat of Money.


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#1863206 - 03/16/12 04:04 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Well, Seven Nation Army is so simple and repetative, I'm not sure it counts as learning. smile

I really like Nataly Dawn's cover on YouTube.

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#1863310 - 03/16/12 06:31 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Two great songs, cheechako. It's always good to have fun.

Today I have memorised the bass line from Purcell's Ground (ZD 221; probably actually by William Croft, not Purcell). 3.5 bars, about 28 notes. Nothing at all. But it's all I need in LH, as it then repeats 10 more times. grin
A bit like Seven Nation Army!



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#1863492 - 03/17/12 04:33 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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SwissMS -thanks for rescuing us and bringing us back up to the surface! Congrats on your trill. Aren't trills fun? I love them.

Burt59- Your first recital! Good for you. I don't think the other parent who spoke to you was simply being kind. Think about how many of us waited so very long before starting, ---- lots of people are still waiting, trying to summon up the courage to take the plunge and learn piano. He was most likely genuinely impressed that you had started and managed to perform in public. Don't forget that at most recitals, the audience is REALLY and sincerely rooting for all the performers.

DMT3339 - New music - ah, we all understand that thrill! Have a good time with your new challenges!

Rusty Foursome - 4 finger chords. Hmm. I have not yet come across any of those in my pieces. I find 3 finger chords sufficiently challengine. Good luck coming to grips with them!

Cheechako -- Please don't feel out of place - some of us here have only been playing a few months, a year or two, or three - then there are a few others who are farther along in their musical journey. It is a real mixed bag. Hey, sometimes we talk about which scales we're working on! We're all learning and sharing the adventure. Nothing is to simple or basic to put up as your AOTW in this thread - it is all relative to each person's experience.

Eglantine - will we get to hear your piece when you're done? I like Purcel very much - and whether this is Croft passing for Purcel or pure Purcel, if there is room for confusion, I'm sure I'd like it .

I have had a quiet week. I think my main achievement has just been getting to the piano period.
I have been improving with the use of the pedal, that started about 10 days ago or so.... and I've got the first page of my Chopin waltz (Am posthumous) memorized. I can play it all - V.E.R.Y. slowly.
However I don't think I'll be moving on to the second page til I have this one a bit more up to speed. The second page has a LOT in common with the beginning of the piece so I believe it will be much quicker to learn.


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#1863508 - 03/17/12 05:39 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Casinitaly, my Olympus LS-10 is currently with Olympus UK tech services, as it completely packed up. (And it was only 5 weeks out of warranty!) I'm just waiting to hear if they can fix it. It's taking a few weeks. I'm hoping to get the Purcell in recordable shape by the time I get it back.


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#1863590 - 03/17/12 10:30 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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I have finished memorizing Satie's First Gymnopédie. That means I now have three pieces memorized.

Also I have learned my last three harmonic minor scales, so now I know all 24 major and harmonic minor scales.


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#1863845 - 03/17/12 07:01 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Greetings, everyone!

P88 - Hey, I have exactly 3 pieces memorized now, too! Two Clementi movements and a not-Bach minuet from the Anna Magdelena notebook. But I have nowhere *near* as many scales memorized...

Burt59 - your recital sounds great. It sounds like you did a great job! I have never done one, and can only imagine how much playing "publicly" would mess me up... I'm guessing it would be plenty messy. A hearty congratulations.

I've had a quiet few weeks, piano-wise. My latest Clementi movement is really coming together - lots of compliments today from my instructor, though we worked on the final 10 bars as I was least confident there. Now he's got me working on Fur Elise, which some of you may know tickles me pink because I love Beethoven and this is my first. I've got the first easy part going but not very smooth yet, and soon will start having to deal with what I'd call the first fast part. He thinks I can do it, so I'm psyched!

And just to say what's up with scales, since casinitaly mentioned them... I'm working on 2 octaves in anything other than C major... starting with G... shoulda done these long ago, but better late than never!



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#1864439 - 03/18/12 11:33 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Just checking in to see how everyone's doing. It's great to see some new contributors here, as well as updates from some of the "originals". Not a whole lot going on here, except that I'm really enjoying my Satie piece, Gnossienne #5. I've been having so much fun with it, that I also started working on #3 and #4. Can't wait for my next lesson, to start getting some feedback on these new ones.


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#1864447 - 03/18/12 11:44 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Still working on my Joplin piece Weeping Willow. It is coming along quite nicely. I can now play through the first 2 sections fairly well. I like to play it slower than I have seen others play on YouTube. Hopefully, I can have something worth recording soon. I think I am hooked on Joplin. I have to play something different once I finish Weeping Willow.


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Originally Posted by Michael Taylor
I think I am hooked on Joplin. I have to play something different once I finish Weeping Willow.


Have you played "Bethena"? It's not technically demanding and, I think, very beautiful. An excellent training ground for controlled rubato.

#1864575 - 03/19/12 08:16 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: PianoStudent88]  
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Originally Posted by PianoStudent88
I have finished memorizing Satie's First Gymnopédie. That means I now have three pieces memorized.

Also I have learned my last three harmonic minor scales, so now I know all 24 major and harmonic minor scales.


Congrats on the scales!

(I'm finding scales don't stick unless I learn a piece in that scale.)


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#1864599 - 03/19/12 09:13 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: PianoStudent88]  
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Originally Posted by PianoStudent88
I have finished memorizing Satie's First Gymnopédie. That means I now have three pieces memorized.


I'm finding the Gymnopédie tricky to memorize (though I will admit I spend 80% of my time for new repertoire on the Rameau I'm learning and the other 20% on Satie and Fur Elise). The main theme is very simple; but the second theme (and the slightly modified end section) trip me up. I think it's the very subtle variations in chord voicing.

I love this piece - my teacher hates it. I always make a point of telling her when others hear me practicing, if they hear the Gymnopédie, that's the one they comment on 100% of the time! cool


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#1864605 - 03/19/12 09:23 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Eglantine, I find sort of the reverse: my learning of the scales seems to be quite independent of my ability (or lack of ability!) to play a piece in that key. Just knowing where to put my fingers in the scale pattern doesn't seem to translate to a knowledge of key geography or key signature if the notes are in the non-linear order of a piece of music.

Andy Platt, I agree with you about the relative complexity of the parts in the First Gymnopédie. I left a good long gap to let the other parts get solid in memory before memorizing the very last phrase. Partly I was waiting for any part of that phrase to sink in by osmosis, as had partly happened for the other phrases. No dice. But once I finally tackled it by concentrated mental effort, the patterns in it became clearer. I sometimes practice by saying the names of the chords to myself. If I'm really feeling energetic, I'll say their inversions also.

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#1864612 - 03/19/12 09:48 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Oh, one more thing on the Satie (in contrast to your teacher's hating it). I learned Gnossienne No. 1 first, and would have loved to play it for my teacher's upcoming recital, but she nixed it as too strange for the audience. So I thought, oh well, no Satie. But then as I was learning the First Gymnopédie, she thought it was very pretty and asked if I would play it for the recital. Whoo-hoo!

Everyone plays two pieces, so I'll be playing Beethoven's Sonatina in F, and then the Gymnopédie.


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#1864619 - 03/19/12 09:55 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: PianoStudent88]  
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Originally Posted by PianoStudent88
Oh, one more thing on the Satie (in contrast to your teacher's hating it). I learned Gnossienne No. 1 first, and would have loved to play it for my teacher's upcoming recital, but she nixed it as too strange for the audience.


What was the audience? I'd have thought any Satie would be very approachable. Though the Gymnopédies have been so (over) used signature and incidental music on radio and TV that they're already familiar to most people.

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Mostly beginner piano students, and their apparently musically-unsophisticated parents. I think the Gnossienne No. 1 is thought to be a bit too minimalist for their taste. For the First Gymnopédie, it's probably an advantage if it's familiar.


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#1865324 - 03/20/12 12:05 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: Andy Platt]  
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Originally Posted by Andy Platt
Originally Posted by PianoStudent88
I have finished memorizing Satie's First Gymnopédie. That means I now have three pieces memorized.


I'm finding the Gymnopédie tricky to memorize ...The main theme is very simple; but the second theme (and the slightly modified end section) trip me up. I think it's the very subtle variations in chord voicing.


That was my 7th piece I memorized, and I learned it last December/January 2010/2011. It sucked. Love it, but YEAH it isn't so easy to memorize. I was playing and playing and playing and by this time last year I was wondering if I'd every play it OK.

And now I do, but I still hit a wrong note every so often--usually confusing a D or E that begins phrasing within a section--and the last few arpeggios or chords still goof me up if I am drifting off. Sometimes I end the piece and go "WTF?!? I PLAYED THE ENDING OF THE FIRST PART A SECOND TIME! DAR!"

But, it comes along. I just play too much stuff to nail down all my stuff precisely. By the end of the year I have to go back and get it right. HOWEVER, as you progress, listen to others playing the song and notice how about 80% of the performances of the piece lack any soul. It is almost a self regulating piece which will rely on the very movement of your hands to create the feeling. It shouldn't be too slow and it shouldn't be monotonously hammered through. You can flourish your hands and achieve a better sounding performance than most of the professionals selling it on CDs; I think they just churn it out for a buck.

Satie wrote it as "furniture music" or what others now equate to Musak of the late 1800s. It was meant to fill a space with music behind the life, meal, conversation, etc. It was never meant to be contemplated and dwelt on. As such it is awesome and never seems to tire--a true classic bagatelle.

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not sure if this thread is alive but I want my first post to be a heartened thank you for all the enthusiasm and ideas. I began in Nov 2009 on my 60th birthday figur time was a waistin'! Love making music. Started w Schaum. Now in Thompson gr 3.
Toreodor is a challenge with grace notes and devilish 16ths. Reading your posts is reassuring that this can be accomplished. My teacher is very kind, so that helps make my fluffs less catastrophic. My goal is to someday be able to play entire pieces smoothly. She says pianists never get it perfect, they just better learn to improvise through errors!
this weeks excitement, true arr grin ival in 3 (counting!) days of a "new to me" Yamaha U1.


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manyhands,

Welcome to the thread. I love your PW name..... many hands, well, at least a few extra, is exactly what I feel like I need when I look at a new piece!

If we didn't make mistakes we wouldn't need teachers. Plus, mistakes are the best source of information we have as to exactly what we need to work on. Think of them as your friends, worth their weight in gold in the search for improvement.

Congrats on your new piano. It doesn't get much better than sitting down to your new instrument and getting acquainted. We want pics!!! grin

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The AOW's seem few and far between for me lately.

Still working on the MacDowell, mostly rubato and voicing issues. I've been recording it and then working on improving the parts I am unhappy with.... alas, still have a way to go.

Ravel is coming along and I should be ready to start polishing it in the next few weeks. Then I'm going to have to choose between it and MacDowell for my teacher's May recital...and I have no idea at this point which one I will pick!

Handel's Gavotte should be the last baroque before I get to tackle a Bach Invention, which I'm really looking forward to. We've been doing all kinds of things to increase finger strength and eliminate tension....all kind of leading up to the more advanced Bach material I think.

The usual reading, scales, Hannon (finished with doz/day-4). My jazzy stuff in the evening. Life at the bench marches on.



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Originally Posted by JimF
The AOW's seem few and far between for me lately. [...]
Even so, it sounds like you have things very well planned out. A bit at a time... and then you realize that you've made progress! Nice that you're almost to the polishing phase with your Ravel. Do you like that phase the most, or do you like the beginning stages of learning a piece?

manyhands -- welcome to the forum. This thread is most certainly not dead! And yes, it's a great place to come to be inspired and to look back on challenges that have been overcome. Congrats on the new piano -- exciting!


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...the polishing phase with your Ravel. Do you like that phase the most, or do you like the beginning stages of learning a piece?
To be honest, MaryBee, I have very limited experience with real polishing like I am trying to do right now. My teacher's preference is usually for me to just move on to the next piece once I get something to where all the notes are in and there is at least some dynamic shape to it. In fact if I had to state what I'm most trying to get out of these pieces it is just that...experience with really trying to mold the music to the way I want it to sound. Unfortunately, I think, (and my teacher has said so, in so many words) that my ear for what sounds good is quite a bit ahead of my skills at the bench. sick

Just one more challenge to work on.


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That is a really nice thing to point out, Jim. I think that one of the interesting differences between child and adult learners is the one you just pointed out in the final sentence of your post. Even though you put a green face after it, I think that you should instead celebrate your refined ear with a smile . Perhaps you cannot make it sound exactly as you would like it to.....but it is HUGE that you know how you would like it to sound.
My teacher moves me on pretty quickly for the same reason. I sometimes feel very frustrated and I once even argued that I should continue to polish a piece but she said it would be VERY difficult to achieve what I was going for at this stage of my development.
I don't have an achievement this week. Unfortunately, my entire family was hit with the flu sick (the face fits here!) . I haven't touched the piano in 5 days!!!!


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Today I stopped into a piano store that I had never been to before. I got a compliment from two people. One gentleman noticed I was playing a nocturne, and asked me to play it for him on a piano he had just purchased. Later, one of the ladies that worked there told me that I was a "Steinway player", which I took as a compliment--and don't burst my bubble by giving me the most obvious reason for such a compliment!!


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Originally Posted by hawgdriver
Later, one of the ladies that worked there told me that I was a "Steinway player", which I took as a compliment--and don't burst my bubble by giving me the most obvious reason for such a compliment!!


They pay you?

That can't be it, you know. It has to be because your playing exactly suits the Steinway sound, and vice-versa. Both top of the line, no?

That's cool -

Cathy


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#1866399 - 03/22/12 03:02 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: hawgdriver]  
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Originally Posted by hawgdriver
Today I stopped into a piano store that I had never been to before. I got a compliment from two people. One gentleman noticed I was playing a nocturne, and asked me to play it for him on a piano he had just purchased. Later, one of the ladies that worked there told me that I was a "Steinway player", which I took as a compliment--and don't burst my bubble by giving me the most obvious reason for such a compliment!!


Awesome!! I wish you had recorded it frown


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#1866539 - 03/22/12 10:47 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Welcome Manyhands!
Yes, this thread is alive and well, and I'm really happy to see so many new faces (figuratively speaking!) lately.

The music you're playing sounds like fun!

Jim - which Gavotte of Handel are you playing?
I think your comments on being able to hear where your weaknesses are is actually an accomplishment. Once we get to the point where we really know it can be done better, we've reached a new level of understanding where we are on the voyage and where we can go! What is exciting is when you see that you can't quite get something, but know it is within your grasp.


Christine, I hope everyone at your place is feeling better now so you can get back to your normal routines - not just piano!

Hawgdriver - hey, learn to take a compliment - ok, maybe she was trying to sell you a piano, but you're no fool - you know you can play well, and who knows, maybe a Steinway will be in your future! smile

I have no accomplishments to report except that despite feeling ill, I did manage to get in a little playing every day.

My piano teacher just rang the bell....catch you later!


Edited to add: I REALLY am making progress with my pedalling - my teacher complimented me on it ! :):):):)

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