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Help / Advice on a Blasius & Sons Piano #185700
11/05/03 12:29 PM
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I found a used piano in great condition, but wanted to get some opinions on whether it is worth the asking price... It's a Blasius and Sons Upright Piano with gorgeous wooden cabinetry, intricate wooden carved leafwork.
Piano keys are in very good condition, no sticking, sound board is good, has good tone. The piano has been tuned every year. There is a water spot on the top of the piano, apparently from putting a plant on the top of the piano and water accidently leaking onto the finish.

I'm pretty sure it is late 1800's or at the least very early 1900's. In super condition. I don't have the serial # at this time to confirm the exact date...

How much is a piano like this worth? I'm considering purchasing because I'd like to begin learning to play the piano & also would love to have one around the house for other family members & friends who do know how to play already.

Any thoughts / feedback?

Thanks!


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Re: Help / Advice on a Blasius & Sons Piano #185701
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I've only come across a couple of those myself but they seemed to be a cut above other pianos of the same area.

Perhaps have it checked out by a good tech:
you may be on to a pretty nice piano after all!

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Re: Help / Advice on a Blasius & Sons Piano #185702
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Thanks for the reply -- what are some of the ballpark prices that you've seen for something like this?

Thanks again!


CJT
Re: Help / Advice on a Blasius & Sons Piano #185703
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Up until a few years ago, I had one of those myself. Mine had a Regent label (circa 1915) but Blasius built it.

Blasius is on the (definitive!) David Burton list of Golden-age pianos worthy of consideration which to my mind makes it worth a look. Mine held up well and was still quite playable when I traded it in. I had some action work done over the years and the Oak case was reasonably decorative and in good condition. It was in good tune when I traded it and I was allowed $500 for it at that time.

$500 as a trade in doesn't mean much - it was part of a deal that involved two trade-ins and the purchase of another used piano so they may have allowed nothing at all for it. The better figure to use would be $695 - the amount the dealer stickered it at on their showroom floor for resale. I thought it was a bargain at that price as it was sitting next to a wretched Geo P. Bent "Crown" priced the same, even though rats had eaten the hammers off of it and from all appearances were still living in the thing.

I don't know what the eventual sale price was on the Regent. I do know that one like it recently sold on E-Bay for $1000, but I would consider that somewhat of a fluke as it was based on the fact that piano had a whole bunch (new hammers, strings, etc.) of work done on it and had a spectacular Tiger Oak case.

Have a tech look at it and give you the cold, hard facts on what might need to be done to it in the near term. I'd use this information to establish the value to you and go from there.

Good hunting!


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Re: Help / Advice on a Blasius & Sons Piano #185704
11/05/03 06:13 PM
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Blasius made a darn good piano in their day. We just restored one of these uprights for a customer in Binghamton, NY. Jump to this link... Blasius Upright Restoration Job

Keep in mind that when buying an older piano, no matter what name brand it is, it will probably need some work. This Blasius that we just restored sounds like a Mason & Hamlin upright. Maybe the one you are looking at does too!

Get a qualified piano man to check it out.

Michael Kaufman
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Re: Help / Advice on a Blasius & Sons Piano #185705
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Michael,
That piano sure is purty! And the right color, too wink .

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Re: Help / Advice on a Blasius & Sons Piano #185706
11/06/03 02:03 AM
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Also from the Country Piano site. I have never seen a Burled Elm piano restored before - it's beautiful!

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Michael, the general complaint with rebuilt Big-o uprights is that they are incapable being played over a full range of volume - that is to say they are always LOUD.

Has this been your experience and are there ways that you mitigate this tendency when rebuilding them?


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Re: Help / Advice on a Blasius & Sons Piano #185707
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Also from the Country Piano site. I have never seen a Burled Elm piano restored before - it's beautiful!

[Linked Image]

Michael, the general complaint with rebuilt Big-o uprights is that they are incapable being played over a full range of volume - that is to say they are always LOUD.

Has this been your experience and are there ways that you mitigate this tendency when rebuilding them?
My unrebuilt upright is capable of playing soft. I just need to modify my touch a bit - I have a naturally firm touch, probably stemming from having too-soft hammers in most pianos I have played....


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Re: Help / Advice on a Blasius & Sons Piano #185708
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Steve... I've seen this problem on some old neglected pianos. Usually as time goes on and the piano is played the hammers get compact, hard, and grooved. Also the regulation is all out of wack. I've seen some pianos that had there hammers grooved right down to the wood core! That will make you jump when the piano is played, talk about BRIGHT!
This It is fixed by action regulation and if necessary a new set of hammers.


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Re: Help / Advice on a Blasius & Sons Piano #185709
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I found the serial number on the Blasius & Sons piano -- 14#17601. Can anyone help me figure out what year it was manufactured?

Thanks!


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Re: Help / Advice on a Blasius & Sons Piano #185710
11/06/03 10:33 AM
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I found the serial number on the Blasius & Sons piano -- 14#17601. Can anyone help me figure out what year it was manufactured?

Thanks!
The Piano Atlas puts it somewhere between 1895 (#16100) and 1900 (#18900).


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