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my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... #1855814
03/03/12 11:24 PM
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A little background:

I studied Piano when I was 7 years old. Due to the stress from my school, I dropped just in the middle of practicing for grade 7 when I was 14. Now I am 26, and finally got some time to pick it up. I used to practice on a Pearl River upright piano back in China, but as now I am living in a apartment in US, I decided to go with digital.

First start from the cheap Casio PX-130, and Yamaha P95, both are nice, but as my research goes deeper, Roland, Kawai came into my mind. I tried Roland in a local Piano dealer, their PHAIII key action is just fantastic.

I then tried a Kawai CE200 in a sam ash store, the key action seems sluggish to me. So I almost buying the Roland HP305. But I was wondering if the in store demo is well abused by people all day long, so want to give Kawai another try. I then went to a local Kawai dealer, the CA63 just feel so real to me, far better then the CE200. It maybe that the new RM key action is significantly better than the AWA Pro II found in CE200, or it may be just the demo unit in sam ash I tried is a bad one. (Edit: I think both PHAIII and RM are as great, to be honest, I have no preference, I will be happy with either one. But as the pivot point of black key and white key in RM is in different locations, just like acoustic Key action, In theory, this particular arrangement should be closer to the real. So I finally decided to go with Kawai, actually the CA63 is cheaper than HP305)

To my ear, the onboard sound is probably not as good as the SuperNatural sound in Roland's HP305, the harpsichord in CA63 is just trash comparing to Roland's. (Edit: I am playing a lot of Bach, I think I may end up using harpsichord in Pianoteq)

I notice a plastic clicking noise of one black key, So disassembled and fixed it. Perhaps this is a disadvantage of wooden keyboard, you may have more imperfection/variation comparing to plastic, which is more flexible and easy to control quality.

But I am VERY happy with the CA63 so far. Wood smells good, feels good (although I know the material does not necessary relate to the touch feeling), you can always improve the sound using Ivory or Pianoteq.

KUDO, KAWAI ~

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Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1855815
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Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1855831
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Nice.

Do you find it difficult to see/use the display and keypad?

I just need/want a quality piano with 1 quality piano sound, so changing voices, programming, etc. isn't an issue.

But was just wondering.

Thanks.

Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: Can't Sit Still] #1855840
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The keypad is solid. It's really easy and intuitive switching between sounds.
But the menu system is kind of confusing at first glance. You do need to reference the user manual to play with advanced features. But not a big deal when you get used to it.

Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1855921
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What's the cause of the plastic clicking noise and how did you fix that? I saw your pictures but it's not very clear to me.

Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1855953
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Congrats on the CA63. Brave of you to open it up whilst it's still under warranty. How do you get the top off?

Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: spanishbuddha] #1855973
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Welcome to the CA63 owners club wink

Could you be so kind to tell us how do you opened the piano? is it difficult ? ... it can be so useful to know how to access to clean or remove little objects that have fallen into between keys ...

Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1855975
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Congrats indeed, and great pictures!

James
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Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1855997
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I added your post to the DPs Exposed! list. Thanks for the nekid pichures!

The I/O panel looks a little out of place - like the cutout could use a bit of trim or a door or something. The headphone holder bracket is a nice touch.

Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: dewster] #1856009
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How To Remove Top Panel

A Guess!

- Remove upper screws along the back
- Carefully slide top panel forward and lift



Jon ...

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Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: cosun] #1856016
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Thanks all.

Originally Posted by cosun
What's the cause of the plastic clicking noise and how did you fix that? I saw your pictures but it's not very clear to me.


I think it's just assemble imperfection. I did nothing to the key itself. Just pull out the white key next to it, then take the black key out, put it back. noise gone... grin It's just a one hour easy fix, not need to call Kawai service guy. (don't tell Kawai, grin I think that will void the warranty...)

I know The pictures are just to show the keys, not related to the problem.


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How To Remove Top Panel

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- Remove upper screws along the back
- Carefully slide top panel forward and lift



Exactly~

Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1856020
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A beautiful instrument, inside and out. Thanks for the pictures & explanation.


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Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1856025
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Thanks for the review and pics. Enjoy your new piano!


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Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1856041
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Yes, the simplicity of the RM3 is quite a boon. After opening my AWA PRO and taking it apart, I think I would feel quite comfortable addressing any little problem that came up. Those keys with hammers underneath them seem significantly more complex to me.

Glad you are loving your CA63!

Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1856048
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Thats awesome!

Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1856270
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Thank you so much mradw for taking the time and effort to post these pictures! I love our CA63, it's great to see it exposed, welcome to the CA63 fan club!


Between the drums, guitars, and my CA63, I am in desperate need of more hands!
Re: my new KAWAI CA63 arrived, and get teardown treatment ... [Re: mradw] #1856405
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Great pictures, thanks. And if you were to suffer a lack of artistic inspiration whilst playing you can always lovingly study the back of that microwave - that's bound to stimulate a gush of creative juices!


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