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Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Porcupine] #1836714
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My MP10 has some uneven gaps. It doesn't affect function in any way and no one key ever rubs against its neighbour. It's not between C and D, the gaps are a tad uneven all along the piano. Once upon a time this kind of thing would have bothered me but life's too short. I enjoy the action very much. As Zachary says, it is the best DP action out there.

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Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Porcupine] #1843921
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MP10 has an action very similar to the one in normal grands, therefore a bolt that supports a key (or rather track it) is prone to normal bending to the left or right. All pianos (acoustic) have that issue and every piano technician can fix it, even on MP10 (if he was able to open and close it, which is more tricky than on regular APs). When I got mine, a few keys were even touching each other but I just forced them back (bending the bolt inside by pushing the key to the side) and now they are evenly spaced. You don't have to disassemble the piano to fix this.

Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Porcupine] #1843948
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I'm glad you managed to fix the misaligned keys, but I find it discomforting that Kawai let pass through the QC an instrument with keys actually rubbing against each other.

By the way, in the case where a piano technician gets to open the case, is his method of repair also essentially based on just bending the bolts in place ?

Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Porcupine] #1844810
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that's right. Keys in MP10 are position the same way as for all pianos, although I'm concern about warranty. Maybe James would be able to clarify that.

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Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Porcupine] #1845072
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I would never recommend attempting to adjust a keyboard action (the balance pin in this case) by pushing against a key with force.

If you've manage to perfect any minor key gaps in this way, that's great, however I would still recommend contacting a technician to carry out the adjustment properly.

Cheers,
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Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Kawai James] #1845136
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to answer the question of Porcupine

I am a happy owner of MP6

But in my case, I have come to accept ( unfortunately ) the irregular spacing of keys and their considerable lateral movement
(wobble around from side to side)

I suggested to my friend a KAwai CN33 to use at home.
The keyboard is perfect

Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Kawai James] #1846028
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
I would never recommend attempting to adjust a keyboard action (the balance pin in this case) by pushing against a key with force.

If you've manage to perfect any minor key gaps in this way, that's great, however I would still recommend contacting a technician to carry out the adjustment properly.

Cheers,
James
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I didn't use much force, just the amount that you might get when you play forte regular passages. I just wanted to achieve a result, where no keys are touching each other.

Anyways, it won't be easy to have it fixed. I had to drive 1200 kms to get the piano because there is no Kawai dealer in my area. I really doubt, they have a technician to have a look at it.

And I don't want to send it anywhere right now. It will cost (at least to send it), it is not broken (so there is no good reason to do it) and I don't want fedex guys to fiddle with it again as they can cause more damage than just not even key spacing. So far I enjoy playing on it very much.

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Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: gnembon] #1846068
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Originally Posted by gnembon
I had to drive 1200 kms to get the piano because there is no Kawai dealer in my area.


Wow, that's a lot of driving . . . I can't help but feel that Kawai would sell more if they were more readily available.

Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Melodialworks Music] #1846552
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Originally Posted by Melodialworks Music
Originally Posted by gnembon
I had to drive 1200 kms to get the piano because there is no Kawai dealer in my area.


Wow, that's a lot of driving . . . I can't help but feel that Kawai would sell more if they were more readily available.


1+ Neither of the two big stores here in Atlanta--Sam Ash and Guitar Center--sell Kawai keyboards. The Sam Ash store once did, but not for the last two years.

Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Matt Peckham] #1848996
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Hello Matt,

Yes, I believe the production date on the side of the box is accurate, and that your MP10 was manufactured long after the C/D gap issue was resolved.

Unless the G/A gap on your instrument is terribly noticeable, or prevents you from playing naturally, I honestly wouldn't worry about it.

Cheers,
James
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I'm evaluating the purchase of a second hand MP10. It was bought in March 2011. Is there any indication about the serial number?

Last edited by Qbert; 02/21/12 11:05 AM.

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Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Porcupine] #1849001
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Well, I can probably find out the approximate manufacturing date if you tell me the serial number, yes.

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Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Porcupine] #1849018
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Thx James, I hope to provide it soon.

Anyway, in case it is affected, what is the fixing strategy from Kawai European support? It's still in warranty period (2 years in Italy).


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Re: A few questions about Kawai MP10/MP6 [Re: Porcupine] #1849220
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Qbert, warranty support would be handled by Kawai's Italian dealer, Furcht Pianos. If you have any queries, please contact this company: www.furcht.it .

Kind regards,
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