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Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: lauralei] #1554483
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Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: lauralei] #1554526
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Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: lauralei] #1554530
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Take him out to a nice restaurant after the performance and have a toast to his future successes!

Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: Carey] #1554578
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Originally Posted by carey
Originally Posted by landorrano
15 years old ? Pay him a visit to a house of ill repute !

Your comment is neither funny nor in good taste smokin

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15 years old ? Get him a bottle of vodka and a copy of Playboy magazine. wink

.....and that likewise.
One of our members is asking seriously for help about a simple and innocent thing about her son.

(Hey Carey -- you mean you like that post fine?) confused

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Originally Posted by carey
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15 years old ? Pay him a visit to a house of ill repute !
Your comment is neither funny nor in good taste smokin
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Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: Mark_C] #1554583
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Originally Posted by Mark_C

(Hey Carey -- you mean you like that post fine?) confused


Sorry Mark - I don't know what you are referring to....


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Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: Carey] #1554588
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Hmm...well, you could give him chocolate? When my friend won a concerto competition and performed with orchestra the conductor gave the girls who performed flowers and the guys who performed chocolate.

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Originally Posted by carey
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(Hey Carey -- you mean you like that post fine?) confused

Sorry Mark - I don't know what you are referring to....

Take a look at that whole post.
The first part was where I agreed with your negative comment about someone else's post.

Then I said I felt likewise about another one (i.e. the other post that I quoted there) -- and was surprised to see that you apparently hadn't minded that other one.

See, it's not that hard. smile
(It was all up there.)

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Originally Posted by Andromaque
Take him out to a nice restaurant after the performance and have a toast to his future successes!


This is what we do! Today I took my 10 year old to a coffee shop for nailing a Kabalevsky Etude. It was a special recital for handicapped adults that was given by volunteer students and staff at our music school (hence - mid day on a week day!). For a bigger event, we might go to the restaurant of his choosing.

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Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: Carey] #1554598
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Originally Posted by carey
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15 years old ? Get him a bottle of vodka and a copy of Playboy magazine. wink


Tweedpipe - I'm sure the kid's Mom (the OP) will be happy to do that !! grin


Mark - as you can see above....I wasn't nuts about Tweedpipe's suggestion either cool


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Yes -- but for all the world (I think), that looks like an approving reply!
At least I thought so -- and on second look (actually 3rd or 4th, because I did a double-take at it before), it still appears that way to me.

That's where we got off the track....

Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: lauralei] #1554652
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Wow. Are presents always given at recitals? I've never had any, besides tons and tons of flowers at one recital in Europe.



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Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: lauralei] #1554679
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Mark -

Perhaps I should have said something like ..."How can you be so insensitive as to assume that the kid's Mom (the OP) would be willing to do that?" smokin

Instead I chose to make my point sarcastically ...."I'm sure the kid's Mom (the OP) will be happy to do that." grin

Perhaps the happy face threw you.

Either way - the original comment was inappropriate.



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Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: lauralei] #1554683
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As far as flowers, I would be perfectly fine with them as in my area it's a normal thing to get. Typically they are in the form of a lei, which many people tend to present to the person being honored. If you have ever attended a high school graduation in Hawaii, you'd see what I mean. After a recital or other performance, I wouldn't mind a bouquet (especially if given by a cute girl). That all said, I am older than your son by about 6 years, so things do change in that time.


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Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: Carey] #1554700
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Originally Posted by carey
....Perhaps the happy face threw you....

I probably would have taken it the same way even without it, but that "clinched" it.
Wrongly, as it turned out. smile

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Give him a "Guitar Hero". It is a heckuva lot easier to learn than the fiddle and a lot more social when played together with peers. All the time he is spending now in becoming a poised and accomplished performer through disciplined practice in meditation with the masters he could instead use banging on buttons in your basement with relaxed boys and girls from school.

Seriously, it sounds like you have already given him one of the best gifts you possibly could have.

Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: lauralei] #1554730
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I've got an idea ...... ask him what he would like.

Why didn't I think of this sooner?


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Much to learn, you still have, young apprentice.


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Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: lauralei] #1554748
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I agree with others that flowers are problematical for a lad of 15.

The question reminds me of a concert I attended some years ago where Valery Gergiev conducted (as the final work) Shostakovich's Symphony No 7.

During the applause a young woman walked down the aisle of the concert hall (the Royal Festival Hall in London) with a bouquet of flowers for Gergiev. When she got near the platform Gergiev took no notice, so she left them on the edge of the stage.

Gergiev totally ignored the flowers.

I felt so bad for the young woman (who looked nervous and very self conscious) and so angry with Gergiev for behaving so ungraciously, even rudely. Flowers might have offended his machismo but still... That incident tarnished my image of Gergiev ever after.

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He probably didn't see the flowers. Why would he refuse them?



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I'd go with the chocolates, as mentioned above or another treat i he doesn't like chocolate.

BUT NO FLOWERS!


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The flowers are starting to sound a lot better, compared to the other suggestions.

A fifteen-year-old is embarrassed by anything. That's really nothing new for them. So go ahead; it's all in how it's handled. Accepting the thanks of the audience graciously is part of learning to be a performer. Fifteen-year-old guys do enjoy attention and acknowledgment, even if it is slightly embarrassing.

However, gifts like a visit to a whorehouse, a bottle of liquor, a rifle, sexually-explicit materials--- at fifteen, and on-stage, no less--- sound like trouble for the kid and possibly some legal trouble for the donor.

The chocolates might sound less outright incendiary... but if you could see my little niece's teeth and figure, you might think again.

I like the idea of including a gift card, maybe to a large bookstore which carries CDs, books, and which can even order scores. But, if you know what book or score to get, that would make an even better thank-you present. Personally, there are things like collections of the complete piano works of favorite composers or performers that I wouldn't mind getting. It would be a bonus if the score of the complete works (in a nice edition) came along with it. It helps to suggest a goal both for future performances as well as for the personal music library.


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Thank you to all of those who had serious suggestions about how I could acknowledge my son's achievement. I have never before given him a gift at any performance, but playing such a big solo with a full orchestra is a very special occasion, imho.

I also appreciate the warm comments, especially from lilylady and theJourney, expressing the joy of this occasion. Thanks, too, to those who objected to the offensive responses to my question. (My son would have been mortified to have read those suggestions, even though I know they were only in jest.)

I did drop the orchestra conductor a note asking about flowers and such and her response was that boys only get flowers in Europe. She suggested that if I waned to do something publicly, I could hand him a single rose and attached gift card from the edge of the stage.

Laura

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Laura, speaking in serious, I suggest that you not give your son a gift publicly.

Normally the organizers will give flowers or something, it is a gesture of thanks towards an artist on behalf of the public and the organizers. Your gesture is a personal one, a lovely gesture perhaps but a personal one and it's place is not on the stage.

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Originally Posted by landorrano
Laura, speaking in serious, I suggest that you not give your son a gift publicly.

Normally the organizers will give flowers or something, it is a gesture of thanks towards an artist on behalf of the public and the organizers. Your gesture is a personal one, a lovely gesture perhaps but a personal one and it's place is not on the stage.


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Re: Flowers for a boy after important performance? [Re: lauralei] #1555027
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"I did drop the orchestra conductor a note asking about flowers and such and her response was that boys only get flowers in Europe... "

I guess that's fine for her to say, but I have seen the contrary with my own eyes at our local concert series. All the performers received flowers. All the performances were in America. Garrick Ohlsson was given his before his encores, and had some trouble figuring out what to do with them (and he should have gotten a much nicer bouquet for that concert).

But you know your son, and you should do what you think he would like best.


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Honestly I do not know what the deal is if you give your son flowers? I think it is a wonderful idea! All the great pianists in the world receive bouquets of thousands of flowers after they have performed marvelously and beautifully.

I think to send flowers to someone is genderless and has nothing to do with either being a boy or a girl. It is wonderful, it is beautiful and it shows and speaks out affection, admiration and love without the necessity of using one single word.

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