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My search for real piano sound
#1834266 01/29/12 01:51 PM
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I had several dps and was not happy with the sound. Taking advice from this list I decided to try VI’s to see if they would provide a more realistic piano sound.

Tried first with my PC but too much latency so as recommended here I bought a mac mini. Sure enough it worked right off with no latency. I bought several VI’s; first Alicia’s Keys, then TruePianos, then NI Vienna Grand. Not really happy with any of them.

Then I looked on Craigs and bought an old Baldwin Hamilton for $500.

The sound of the Hamilton sweeps over me, with sustain that lasts forever with no looping, tons of sympathetic resonance, smooth weighted action with dynamics easily and continuously variable from pppp to fff, all the stuff people want in a dp but can't seem to find.

At that point I gave up on VI's. I kept one of my dp’s for gigging, sold the rest. Anyone want to buy a loaded mac?


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Edtek, interesting story. I have an entry level acoustic and I too have found that no digital I tried (and I tried some very expensive ones) gives that same overall experience as playing the acoustic. I recently bought a P155 for night practice and am happy with it but I agree nothing beats the real thing. Funny thing is I got very used to the sound of the digital one day and when I switched back to acoustic my acoustic sounded different to me. Almost odd in a way. Isn't it amazing how your ears adjust to different sounds. I still think the best way to think of digitals is they are their own instrument. Similar to the acoustic piano in many ways buy different in others. When I take this viewpoint I can enjoy almost any digital to some degree. It is a different instrument with it's own strengths and weaknesses.

I am glad you found something that you love! Personally I'm saving my money for a better acoustic sometime down the road. Though there was lots I liked about the higher end digitals I'd rather spends that money On an acoustic.


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Originally Posted by Edtek
Taking advice from this list I decided to try VI’s ... I bought several VI’s; first Alicia’s Keys, then TruePianos, then NI Vienna Grand. Not really happy with any of them.

I'm not surprised you didn't like those. I'm surprised if many here recommended those VI's. Most of the recommendations are Ivory II, Galaxy Vintage D, or Garritan.


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I agree with Macy. However, at $500 that upright sounds like a pretty sweet deal. Since you have a digital for gigging and night play, if you've got the space, an upright can be a great addition.

I always think it's good to play on lots of different actions and pianos. Helps keep you flexible.

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Hi Edtek I agree nothing beats a real piano. I'd say a real piano is best for personal enjoyment, while a DP is best for gigging and recording. The rich resonance of a real piano may be too much to sound good in a recording, and the cleaner sound of DP is more suitable for recording use.

The good VI's I've come across are Ivory, Galaxy and Alicia's Keys. The best DP in my opinion is the Nord Piano. As soon as I got it, my quest for DP sound was over and I was a happier person.


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Wow, $500 dollars for a nice Baldwin upright - great find!

I actually really love the 'tight' sound of some uprights...for example the piano Ike Turner plays on 'Getting Nasty':

[video:youtube]f8cFpqjr9qo[/video]

Hmm...this is an upright, right?

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