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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Sam Casey] #1830596
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I had an old Kawai 500 where the middle pedal did not work. I took the action out, and found that the wire loop that goes to the monkey had slipped out of the sostenuto bar. I put it back and added a couple of drops of CA glue. Maybe it will hold.


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I've done that repair before with no complaints, so I assume it held.




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Hard to know, since many people never use that pedal. It is a shame, because unlike some of the other pedals, it can be useful.


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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: UnrightTooner] #1830700
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Originally Posted by UnrightTooner
Originally Posted by chuck belknap

The angel shot voicing technique is an amazing way to quickly voice down bright hammers. It is quick, easy, and very effective, and as I was told in the class at KC, if you voice the hammer down too much, it is reversible by tapping the area of the needle canal. I taught this at a chapter meeting to members in the business over 30 years, and they were amazed.


Sounds great. And how is it done?


By what else??? Angels of course! grin


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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: BDB] #1830763
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Originally Posted by BDB
Hard to know, since many people never use that pedal. It is a shame, because unlike some of the other pedals, it can be useful.


Agreed. Aside from using it amid playing, I find it *most* useful during tuning.

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As I strive to learn to play without the damper pedal, I regret that I am not anywhere near mastering the use of the sostenuto pedal.


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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Jerry Groot RPT] #1830824
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Originally Posted by Jerry Groot RPT
Originally Posted by UnrightTooner
Originally Posted by chuck belknap

The angel shot voicing technique is an amazing way to quickly voice down bright hammers. It is quick, easy, and very effective, and as I was told in the class at KC, if you voice the hammer down too much, it is reversible by tapping the area of the needle canal. I taught this at a chapter meeting to members in the business over 30 years, and they were amazed.


Sounds great. And how is it done?


By what else??? Angels of course! grin


Well if it requires angels, we won't have much luck finding them here!


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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Sam Casey] #1830840
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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Sam Casey] #1830872
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For those of us so far away, what's this angel(angle)shot technique? Is it more than tapping the hammer to bring it up?

I have a lovely weighted needle tool with a flat on the back of the handle for just this.

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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Sam Casey] #1830899
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rXd:

Some of us on this side of the pond wonder what the angle technique is, too. Sigh... It's like asking about a henway!


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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Sam Casey] #1830911
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And here's someone on the third side of the pond, wondering too. Will we ever find out?

(Jeff, what's a henway?)


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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Mark R.] #1830986
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Originally Posted by Mark R.

(Jeff, what's a henway?)


About 4 to 6 pounds. it is an old Marx Bros routine...


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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Sam Casey] #1830997
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Ah, I finally got someone to bite on the henway gag. I've tried a couple of times before. But 4 to 6 pounds would be quite a hen. About 2 pounds is more like it.


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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Sam Casey] #1831023
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So while I was over on Salt Spring Island last year I decided to try some of the local products grown there.

The meat hens sold on SSI are allowed to run around all over the place. Some even fly if they are not too lazy. Funny thing I learned about meat hens; you have to place the water at the opposite end of the coop so these birds will get some exercise otherwise they just stand and eat and drink without moving.

The grower let a couple of them go for 10 weeks instead of the usual 8 weeks and one was 8.5 lbs….reminded me of a broiler turkey. Darn fine meal too… a few times… got another one in the freezer that is 7.6 lbs.

She said these two could barely walk….. Most were between 4- 6 pounds. This is all I know....


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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Sam Casey] #1831029
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Sorry, I cannot answer the angel shot technique as that is one voicing class that I did not attend and if I did, I can't remember it!!! frown


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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Sam Casey] #1831133
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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: UnrightTooner] #1831390
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Originally Posted by UnrightTooner
Ah, I finally got someone to bite on the henway gag.


Oh dear... *slaps forehead*

And here I was, thinking we're in a Piano Forum, so a Henway is probably something like a Chickendorfer, Steinring or Bösengräber.

Well, the joke's on me - glad to have been of service either way. smile


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Don't feel too bad. I was beginning to think an angel shot was something you did in a bar with a napkin tied round your head.


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Re: So, what did you do today? [Re: Sam Casey] #1831951
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Hey, sorry for not popping in sooner. (noticed that there is a separate thread on angle voicing....)

Again... sorry for the late response...


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