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hello and thanks #1825689
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Hello,
I have been reading the forum for a while, and decided to post. This forum was very helpful in selecting a piano for my kids. I knew little to nothing about pianos when I started looking for one, but learned a lot aong the way, most of it here.

After comparing many pianos I eventually settled on a Perzina upright. It was a close toss up between a 90 year old piano and the new chinese perzina.



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Good choice.


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Originally Posted by BDB
Good choice.


+1. Congratulations!

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I am quite happy with it. If there is one comment is that the bass is great, but is hard to control when she plays and overpowers the mid notes. It might be my environment, because it does not sound that way when she plays at the school (on a kawai).

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>the bass is great, but is hard to control when she plays and overpowers the mid notes.

Maybe the room is very small or is it placed in a corner?


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It is a strange shape. it is close to a corner, the living room is small but there is an openings to a hallway and the piano is actually beside the stairase to a 2nd floor.

I dont habe many other places to put the piano.

the other piano we looked at (90 years old) did not have that exaggerated bass response.

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You can also "treat" the room... rugs, acoustic panels, etc.

Congrats on the nice piano!

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How did it sound in the showroom?

Also you could try (just to see what's going on) to pull her a few meters from the walls, more to the middle of the room (but not exactly in the center) and see how it sounds there.


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It sounded great when the salespeople played it. They played a bunch of pianos for me and this was the only one in my price range that I liked the sound of.

They did say it had a stronger bass than most of the other uprights. I will try moving it away from the wall tomorrow and try again.

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Did it help to move it away from the corner and walls?

BTW when salespeople play they usually use a lot of pedal, so that almost every piano sounds big and to hide the shortcomings. I recommend playing yourself when buying a piano...


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Congratulations! Good Choice.


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I did not hear much of a difference when I pulled it out from the wall, but I could not get it very far out without a lot of furniture rearrangement.

Interestingly my kid had a recital on a large grand piano and thought that it was a much quieter piano than the one we have at home. It sounded to her about the same volume as playing softly in our house.

From the audience she was playing quite loud and the balance was fine.

That indicates to me how much of a difference rooom acoustice makes, so that proabbly is the main reason for the bass volume in my living room.


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The acoustics are indeed a strange thing. Or it may just be the piano's design. Grand pianos differ from uprights also in that the position where the player sits they get different amout of sound. Because the upright is vertical and the source of sound is right in front of you, you get a much more direct, "in-yer-face" sound as compared to a grand. The grand's sound is directed towards the way the lid is open, so in the audience it sounds fine but from the performer's point of view it may be a little quieter and the sound is different from a different perspective. And since the room in which the recital was held in presumably is much bigger than your piano room at home, the sound, though from a larger piano, would spread out and dissipate more in comparison to your upright in your piano room.

All the best! smile


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