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Just some advise I have been trying to read music and play basic songs , instead of singing words or counting beats i say the notes as i press the piano , Now i am very slow at playing when i say the notes like this, so this time i just tried to focus on guessing from looking at the notes on the sheet where they might be on the piano and i seem to go much faster, is this the right way to read music or must i know what the notes are before i play them ?

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IMO you should know what notes you are playing so that you can be sure you are playing it correctly. Is it learning to read music that is causing you a problem? If so just practice. Once you get it it's quick especially if you play the same song, or notes all the time. Practice with chords etc.

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I just dont see how its possible when you add the fact you could be singing and using two hand to play , where do you have the time to think about what the notes are on sheet and play in time with the music. I understand you could spend i few days remembering the piece of music to the point where you don't even need to know what the notes are anymore . Dont people just take the first note on the sheet and then have an idea of what keys to press on the piano by the notes just by where they are on the clef lines ?

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I suspect most people sight read by finding the first note and then recognizing intervals after that. If you're having trouble with that first note recognition, I can recommend the piano tutor app on the iPhone. There's probably on-line things, too, if you don't have a smartphone.

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Do you currently have a teacher? For my money, that's the best catalyst to help you learn to read music quickly.


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Lots of repetition and going slow. Learn a few, and then a few more. Go back and review them. Use flash cards. If you are not already doing so, consider following a method like Alfreds. It progresses at a pace where it makes it easier to memorize notes and other aspects of theory and playing. It adheres to the idea of slowly progressing and much repetition.


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IMO, the most efficient way to sight read is to focus on a few main notes and relate all of the other notes around those. It's like knowing a few landmarks in a new town. If the interval between 2 notes is small enough, you don't even really need to know what each note is. For example, a run that goes E-F-G-A-B-C, you could just say E and step up to C. Knowing what an octave looks like will help you only have to identify one of the notes. Just a few examples.

Also, if you understand keys and chords, it will help you sort of analyze what you are playing. The more you can understand what you see, the faster the recognition, and therefore, the faster the reading.


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Thanks for all this info on this post I will try to answer some questions you have asked, I did forget to say I am learn without a teacher and trying to use the internet and books to learn . I can do c ,g , d scales both hands and have been learning major, minor chords in them scales. I do know the notes on the sheets just the treble at this point in time, sometimes I will make the odd error but I have just about got them in my head. What I am trying to say is when I start to play from the sheet and think what the next note is, my brain takes some time to register what the note is , If lets say I forget about the notes but not the first note as that has been a guide to the next one , now when I look where the next note is on the lines just as black dots not the actually name of the notes , I can tell how many spaces to leave on the piano keys without even thinking what the note even is, Now I guess when there are big jumps on the lines like says D up to higher D it can be tricky but thats when i can fall back on my brian to remember if i need to . Now I will go back to the first way I was doing this from the sheet music I was saying the notes from the sheet paper before pressing on the keys now the problem here is I can never go fast enough , I need to be well ahead in order to play the song and i want to point out i playing very easy music to start , so are people just using the first note from the sheet and making like patterns and sort of know the keys to hit like I explained or am I going well off track?

I dont mean to go on but can we compare it to typing on computer? I have another way to explane this, When i first started typing i had to look and think what letters to type very slow ,now i think in my head what i want to say and when i type i dont even think about what the letters are on the keyboard but my fingers know what to press .

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Dazzie,

You are not off track. What you are doing is known as intervallic reading, or reading by the "intervals" between the notes. This is a common part of sight reading. But you will also need to know all the notes, so don't let interval reading keep you from getting them all solidly memorized, particularly if you are just learning how to read music.

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Dazzie2, congratulations on being able to play well by intervals! Keep practicing the note naming, slow as it may be. Consider it practice in note naming, rather than playing per se. You will gradually get faster.


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