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Do you log your practice? #1819090
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If so, what benefit have you found from this?

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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819094
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I log the amount of time that I practice within a spreadsheet. I don't log what I'm actually working on, as that will change as I progress.

My reason for logging time is to ensure that I meet or exceed 500 hours of playing time this year. I'd like to hit 750, but 500 is the minimum.


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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819106
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No, that would take time away from practice. smile

Since starting last year I've adopted a standard "thou shalt practice 1 hour every day" rule. There are no exceptions other than not having a keyboard available. All I have to do is subtract the number of days I've traveled during the year to get a useful estimate of hours practiced.


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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819125
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The one true benifit of a practice log is it never forgets. In other words it works as a nice memory device.

For instance, if I know I practiced passage X and got it to, let's say, 90bpm yesterday, then I have a good idea of what tempo I should start practicing passage X today.

Also, I tend to write down other things which I am liable to forget for the next practice session. Such as: "use 'such-and-such' method for this passage, 'incorporate more arm to generate momentum to gain speed.' Et cetera.

There is also something nostalgic about looking back over everything you practiced during the year.

Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819129
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A long time ago I created a really great log sheet....used it once. LOL
I'm really good at organizing things like that but following it is a different story.
Now I just write down what my teacher tells me to do and do it.


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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819149
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Originally Posted by nanette0269
If so, what benefit have you found from this?

Yes, I do into spreadsheet on my android tablet. I always take my tablet with me to piano as I do have some sheets on it too, it's also my metronome etc. So I usually mark practised amount of time just right after practising.
The benefit of this is kind of motivation in not so enjoyable days. I "play" just second month so I'm not yet in the state where I'll be able to play my favourite music, so every little bit of motivation helps.
I'm also doing it as my psychology personal research. I really like to see what I'm able to achieve on piano and exactly in what practised hours. The rule of 10k hours was discussed here in length, I'm not going probably to meet that in my life, but I'm curious how I'll be able to play @100, @500, @1000 hours. My rule is to try to practice 1h/day, but the advantage of the spreadsheet is that I know in avarage I'm just practising 38.7 minutes per day as of today. :-)


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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819154
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Yep.

I put together a Windows app to do this. You enter tasks and it guides you through your practice session (logging the details automatically as you go). The logged tasks can then be viewed, analysed, monitored etc. You can download it for free (see link in my sig). It run's fine under WinXP and also under Vista, could do with some feedback under Win7 though...

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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819161
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I write everything in a small diary (unfortunately I have just noticed that the space available for Saturdays and Sundays is very small... :(), and just the time (the minutes I practiced) in the PW Practice Log. The first year I used to write everything in my diary and then again in the PW Practice Log, but that really took away time from my practice. smirk



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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: EJR] #1819164
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Originally Posted by EJR
Yep.

I put together a Windows app to do this. You enter tasks and it guides you through your practice session (logging the details automatically as you go). The logged tasks can then be viewed, analysed, monitored etc. You can download it for free (see link in my sig). It run's fine under WinXP and also under Vista, could do with some feedback under Win7 though...

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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: ChopinAddict] #1819165
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I used to use the Pianoworld Practice Log and had forgotten all about it. I just checked it and my password still works! It appears that only 3 people are still using it.

We used to have the "Chicks" and "Dudes" competition to see who'd win in having the highest practice times.

Is somebody maintaining this site or does it just live on on its own? I think I'll start using it again-thanks for reminding me.

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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: Agilita] #1819172
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There is a small problem right now because the default year is 2011 and you can enter 2012, but every time (for every entry) it says "Please enter a number between 2010 and 2011", then you have to click OK, and actually 2012 appears to be fine then.

I don't think they do that thing with the highest practice times any more, because I had the highest practice times last year and the year before but nobody notified me that I had won anything. But that's OK, I practice for the love of it, not to win a prize. heart



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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: EJR] #1819174
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Originally Posted by EJR
Yep.

I put together a Windows app to do this. You enter tasks and it guides you through your practice session (logging the details automatically as you go). The logged tasks can then be viewed, analysed, monitored etc. You can download it for free (see link in my sig). It run's fine under WinXP and also under Vista, could do with some feedback under Win7 though...
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Good gobbledygook and bless your heart! My work demands hours in spreadsheets and databases each day. I play piano to escape this stuff!

I guess it helps for some, although just looking at these entries makes me want to run from my piano for fear it will start demanding "system & archival logs". shocked


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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819185
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I've just bought and downloaded an app for my iPad for this very purpose. It's called Music Journal, you create a subject title, e.g C major scale, then set a target BPM, press play button each time you practice that piece, then it logs all time spent on each piece.

I've not used it yet, only for testing how it works, as I intend to start using it seriously once my lessons start (next Monday, excited!)

Just search Music Journal in app store if interested (I have no association with the developer, just an end user)

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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819188
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No, I don't log practice time. I'm glued to the piano unless I am working, cooking, doing housework or walking my dogs. The piano takes up at least 50% of my free time, so I know I'm practicing "enough".


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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819192
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I have kept a practice log in a spreadsheet program for the past year, and I have found it very helpful and motivating. I track what pieces I play, my practice hours, and my comments about my practice each day. At the beginning of each week I list goals that I want to try to achieve and the scales and arps to be practiced that week. At the end of the week I summarize hours practiced, and where I am on the goals. When I refer back to previous months, I can read my notes and see how I have overcome difficulties or learned new things. That helps me feel like I am making progress. So, for me the log helps me keep focused.

Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819195
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"just looking at these entries"

I separate "practice" on the 'session' tab from managing/arranging tasks on the 'task' tab.

During practice you click "Start" then it runs sequentially through the list of tasks, prompting you to move on to the next task.

It evolved from trying to make practice sessions more task and goal focused. Then deciding that for me a set time per task was the way to go. The problem was then during the practice session deciding when to move on to the next task? So it's in essence a multi-task count down timer... (all the logs and stuff is merely a by product of this). So the aim was to automate moving through a list of practice tasks and not spend time manually following the list or watching a clock.

'it will start demanding "system & archival logs"'.

It has a "backup" function and can copy the data files to another another PC on the network, I don't want to loose 3years worth of data. grin

"start demanding".
It's a bit of a disciplinarian. It tells you what to do. (hence 'Practice Prompt').

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I'm with Tararex: my piano playing lives outside of the analytical ways I operate in my job. Well, it's not entirely unanalytical because practicing is for me an intensely analytical activity. But I don't log it. I start playing, practice what I need to, might play some for pure fun (rather than practicing (which isn't to say that practicing isn't (mostly) fun)), and then stop. I have some flexible sense of "enough progress for the day" on each item I practice. This can range from 1/2 to 2 1/2 hours, depending on my mood. On weekends I often will have double practice sessions per day.


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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: EJR] #1819215
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Originally Posted by EJR
"just looking at these entries"

I separate "practice" on the 'session' tab from managing/arranging tasks on the 'task' tab.

During practice you click "Start" then it runs sequentially through the list of tasks, prompting you to move on to the next task.

It evolved from trying to make practice sessions more task and goal focused. Then deciding that for me a set time per task was the way to go. The problem was then during the practice session deciding when to move on to the next task? So it's in essence a multi-task count down timer... (all the logs and stuff is merely a by product of this). So the aim was to automate moving through a list of practice tasks and not spend time manually following the list or watching a clock.

'it will start demanding "system & archival logs"'.

It has a "backup" function and can copy the data files to another another PC on the network, I don't want to loose 3years worth of data. grin

"start demanding".
It's a bit of a disciplinarian. It tells you what to do. (hence 'Practice Prompt').

What can I say, I'm a nerd! cool


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Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: Tararex] #1819262
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I do log my practice hours as my weekly assignment sheet has a practice log on it. I usually enjoy practicing but I find that on the occasional day when I don't feel like practicing, the log keeps me motivated. Once I sit down and start, I get into it quickly. This log just has total time practiced each day. After reading on one of the teacher forums, I ordered a practice planner which sounds like some of the spreadsheets others are using. I think that may be more beneficial and maybe motivate me to spend more time on things I don't enjoy but need to work on for technique.


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I have a calendar. If I practice, I put a sticker on it. I can tell at a glance if I have let life interfere with practicing.

Re: Do you log your practice? [Re: nanette0269] #1819387
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To log or not, that's a good question :-) I think it depends on the individual. I personally find that detailed logging distracts me, almost like "spending more time making lists than actually doing the things on the lists". I currently keep a very simple log by tweeting to an anonymous Twitter account. Somehow, the very act of tweeting motivates me and keeps me honest (MOYD 2012 also helps!), even when no one is checking. The downside of tweeting is that you don't get aggregate numbers, but I won't know what to do with those stats anyway so the "log" is simply a motivational tool. Once I drag myself to the bench, time flies. For me it's all about overcoming the initial inertia (I guess I am not "obsessed" with piano yet, otherwise I won't need motivation).

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I have a 3-ring binder. On one page I log the time spent and the name of the piece, and then I have a sheet for each piece/project I'm working on where I put tempos, problem spots, ah ha!s, cadence work, etc. It helps me not lose a piece, and keep track of progress.

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I am just beginning to recover from my last practice log attempt (HI guys long time no see wink ). My dysfunctional pattern is to set some goals, make extremely detailed checklists to guide myself toward reaching said goals, recoil in horror when I see the enormity of the task ("I've gotta eat this whole elephant???), and in self-defense lose all interest in the subject at hand.

I'm just returning to the piano, but after this syndrome killed my last piano phase, I've been actively studying/experimenting with/challenging this particular tendency in other life areas. I've been using the very nice free software Task Coach to torment myself work on deconditioning myself from this to-do list phobia. I highly recommend the software (the phobia I could do without).


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After reading this thread, I have decided to start a practice log for 2012 in order to keep track of the new pieces I am adding as I improve. I've only been back to taking lessons for just over a year and can see tremendous growth in my ability - unfortunately, neither I nor my teacher were dating anything as I moved along. A couple of months ago, I made a list of all the pieces I've learned over the year and have it in order as best I can.

Now I can see the value of noting the date a piece was started and keeping track of my progress. I started the log last night and reconstructed the first days of the year. From here on out, I will keep track of the total practice time, pieces I focused on and pieces I played for pleasure and make a few notes about metronome speed, problem areas, etc. I now realize the value of this information down the road but I am not going to allow this to become burdensome or detract from the time I spend practicing. I do not want to account for virtually every minute spent at my piano - but just write down enough to a useful reference in the future.

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I use an app called Insight Timer to regulate my practice sessions - it also automatically logs the sessions so you can keep track of your practice hours. Insight was made for people who need something to regulate their meditation sessions, so its got some very cool Tibetan bells to mark the start and end of a session, as well as interval bells which allow a session to be broken up into smaller segments.

Insight is available on Android and iOs and can be found at https://insighttimer.com/

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Originally Posted by AprilMae
From here on out, I will keep track of the total practice time, pieces I focused on and pieces I played for pleasure and make a few notes about metronome speed, problem areas, etc. I now realize the value of this information down the road but I am not going to allow this to become burdensome or detract from the time I spend practicing. I do not want to account for virtually every minute spent at my piano - but just write down enough to a useful reference in the future.


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My thoughts exactly... I'm going to adjust my log from merely recording my practice times to including references to my progress, or problem areas. Mostly though I will keep it simple yet informative... like AprilMae I don't need to account for every minute, just keep track of the bigger picture.

Happy playing everyone!

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I used to keep a record in my head of hour many hours I practice in a day and a week. Later I realized that it is not useful to count the hours for the sake of making the hours as target. It is how the practice time is used that is important. Sometimes a 20 min practice is more fruitful than aimless repetition for over and hour. So I stop countin but think of what I want to achieve at the end of the practice before I begin. It can be familiarize this passage, or experiment with different fingerring for that passage, slow octave practice for this section or play through that piece. If Ive achieve my target, that's a good practice session for me even though it's less than an hour :-)



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The PW Practice Log has been adjusted for 2012. I have to update it every January. I sometimes forget to do this until someone sends me a PM or an email.

Anyway it's back up to date and ready for your entries.

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I log my pupils practice on homework sheets for their reference and also keep a copy for myself. It's worth doing for recapping purposes e.t.c.

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Originally Posted by kylefty
I have a calendar. If I practice, I put a sticker on it. I can tell at a glance if I have let life interfere with practicing.


THIS
I have been wanting to do this not only for piano but also for flossing... It's nice to get in a glance how I'm doing...
Also I like stickers smile

-BB


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