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Re: Rank in difficulty of Schubert's sonatas? [Re: Gould] #1820583
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Playagain - Small world, isn't it???? Several folks here are working on or have played D. 664. And yes - you will love the second movement.

Emmov - It may be "little" - but the third movement is (to quote Dame Myra) a bugger !!!

Dame Myra - Tried your fingering for the 1st movement today and in a matter of minutes I had it down. Thanks for the advice !!! thumb


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Re: Rank in difficulty of Schubert's sonatas? [Re: Carey] #1820598
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It is funny that we're working on the same one! smile I had trouble with those measures (right hand), too, where the lower notes start with finger 2 (measure 34-37), but it's getting better, and also those octaves (which need a lot of work). smile


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Re: Rank in difficulty of Schubert's sonatas? [Re: Gould] #1820601
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I love D.664! I was planning to play either that or Beethoven's op.110, and the Beethoven won out. But still, D.664 is such an amazing sonata, I'll definitely take a look at it soon. I think Richter's tempi are perfect for it, the first movement sings and breathes so naturally!


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Re: Rank in difficulty of Schubert's sonatas? [Re: Gould] #1820607
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Since everyone seems to be working on the little Amajor, I will recommend for the rest of us (note I say the rest of us) a particularly fine recording of the sonata by none other than Alicia de Larrocha. If I'm not mistaken the original LP was paired with Carnaval. Brilliant playing.



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Re: Rank in difficulty of Schubert's sonatas? [Re: Carey] #1820614
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haha, yes! the third movement is indeed a bugger...so many jumps!!
smile the octaves in the first movement take some time to get down, too

and stores- thanks for the recommendation!
actually, I don't usually listen to recordings of the pieces I'm playing..

Re: Rank in difficulty of Schubert's sonatas? [Re: stores] #1820617
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Originally Posted by stores
Since everyone seems to be working on the little Amajor, I will recommend for the rest of us (note I say the rest of us) a particularly fine recording of the sonata by none other than Alicia de Larrocha. If I'm not mistaken the original LP was paired with Carnaval. Brilliant playing.


I'd really love to hear it. Unfortunately I believe that particular recording is over 30 years old. Might be hard to find.


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Re: Rank in difficulty of Schubert's sonatas? [Re: emmov] #1820686
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Originally Posted by emmov
haha, yes! the third movement is indeed a bugger...so many jumps!!
smile the octaves in the first movement take some time to get down, too

and stores- thanks for the recommendation!
actually, I don't usually listen to recordings of the pieces I'm playing..


Did you not read my post? I said FOR THE REST OF US. That means you CANNOT (nor should you) listen. Don't give in to the temptation. Be original. Think for yourself!



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Re: Rank in difficulty of Schubert's sonatas? [Re: Carey] #1820687
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Originally Posted by carey
Originally Posted by stores
Since everyone seems to be working on the little Amajor, I will recommend for the rest of us (note I say the rest of us) a particularly fine recording of the sonata by none other than Alicia de Larrocha. If I'm not mistaken the original LP was paired with Carnaval. Brilliant playing.


I'd really love to hear it. Unfortunately I believe that particular recording is over 30 years old. Might be hard to find.


It is difficult to find. The sonata, to my knowledge, has never been reissued in any form, which is truly a loss. Carnaval, on the other hand has been a few times. HERE is a link to the album (which I would love to have...yes, that's a post-Christmas gift hint for any of you that would love to make me happy).



"And if we look at the works of J.S. Bach — a benevolent god to which all musicians should offer a prayer to defend themselves against mediocrity... -Debussy

"It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right."

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Re: Rank in difficulty of Schubert's sonatas? [Re: stores] #1820911
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Originally Posted by stores
Easiest to most difficult, or vice versa, if you prefer.


hahaha you're so clever!

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Re: Rank in difficulty of Schubert's sonatas? [Re: stores] #1821011
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Originally Posted by stores
Originally Posted by emmov
haha, yes! the third movement is indeed a bugger...so many jumps!!
smile the octaves in the first movement take some time to get down, too

and stores- thanks for the recommendation!
actually, I don't usually listen to recordings of the pieces I'm playing..


Did you not read my post? I said FOR THE REST OF US. That means you CANNOT (nor should you) listen. Don't give in to the temptation. Be original. Think for yourself!


oh dear, I didn't listen to it before..but now I want to go listen > <
ahh! I won't! ...possibly
but no worries, for me, it is nearly at a performance state and I have my own feeling of it (I said so modestly) wink

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