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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Horwinkle] #1803879
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So what DPs are people buying?

When you have a sorted spreadsheet of this thread (see a few posts up) you can query it for info such as this:

Code
 63  Casio
  1  Gem
102  Kawai
  8  Korg
  1  M-Audio
  5  Nord
 92  Roland
170  Yamaha

I guess I'm a bit surprised that Kawai > Roland (due to more limited Kawai availability).

And also that Casio is in 4th place, I would have thought higher.

But Yamaha dominating is what I would have predicted (for various reasons).

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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Horwinkle] #1803925
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Is this a general measure of the sales by each company?
Or is it an expression of the preferences of Piano World members?
Or is it representative of people's willingness to share?

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: MacMacMac] #1803973
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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: MacMacMac] #1804002
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Is this a general measure of the sales by each company?
Or is it an expression of the preferences of Piano World members?
Or is it representative of people's willingness to share?

Total sales by company in this thread. Beyond that who can say? It might stimulate some interesting conversation though.

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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: dewster] #1804006
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Originally Posted by dewster
So what DPs are people buying?

When you have a sorted spreadsheet of this thread (see a few posts up) you can query it for info such as this:

Code
 63  Casio
  1  Gem
102  Kawai
  8  Korg
  1  M-Audio
  5  Nord
 92  Roland
170  Yamaha

I guess I'm a bit surprised that Kawai > Roland (due to more limited Kawai availability).

And also that Casio is in 4th place, I would have thought higher.

But Yamaha dominating is what I would have predicted (for various reasons).


Interesting. Do you have at your fingertips the median price paid for each brand? Some of Yamaha's dominant position is surely due to its diverse product line, covering all imaginable price points.


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: kippesc] #1805584
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Originally Posted by kippesc
Interesting. Do you have at your fingertips the median price paid for each brand? Some of Yamaha's dominant position is surely due to its diverse product line, covering all imaginable price points.

No, too many different currencies for me to do that easily. But the makes and models are grouped in the sorted spreadsheet, which makes getting a feel for the price of a single model pretty straightforward.

Here's some more info, the top selling models (4 or more units) from the top four manufacturers:

Code
	Yamaha
25	CLP340
22	P155
9	YDP160
7	CLP330
7	P95
6	CLP320
5	CP33
5	P85
4	CLP370
4	CP5
4	YDP161

	Kawai
27	CA63
10	CA93
11	CN33
7	MP10
6	CN23
6	ES6
4	MP6

	Roland
16	FP7F
12	HP307
8	HP207
7	RD700NX
6	FP4
6	RD700GX
6	VPIANO
5	HP305
4	DP990
	
	Casio
22	PX330
12	PX130
5	AP620

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Horwinkle] #1805626
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Hmm. I expected more RD700NX (and MP10) users. I guess those that have them are more active than average.

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Horwinkle] #1807977
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Hmm... Does that mean that the stage pianos are less fun to play? wink


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Horwinkle] #1808061
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I think stage pianos are just more daunting to the general DP buyer. Gotta get a stand, probably at least some kind of headphones, and for many you've got to cobble together a music rest (!).

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: dewster] #1808066
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Originally Posted by dewster
I think stage pianos are just more daunting to the general DP buyer. Gotta get a stand, probably at least some kind of headphones, and for many you've got to cobble together a music rest (!).

... and ... making a nice dust cover for it... smile


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #1808088
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Stage pianos are not pushed by piano dealerships, and they win in terms of features/price. Both of those factors contribute to stage piano owners being a little more `in the know' on average than console piano owners at the time of their purchase decision. In other words, stage pianos are likely to be the choice of the hard-core. That's my take, anyway.

By the way, one idea for a dust cover is what I used: solid, smooth, black self liner.

link

It is naturally kind of heavy and conforms the right amount and is very resistant to sliding off. It will quietly roll back off the keys without falling off if you want, doesn't wrinkle, and imparts some impact/scratch protection as well.

The only problem is that it comes in 4 foot by 20 inch rolls, which is just right for width but not long enough, so I had to sew two together.

Anyone annoyed with the lack of dust cover might consider this. Nothing worse than a dust cover that's always slipping off or is noisy or awkward.

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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #1808240
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MAKE: Kawai
MODEL: CN33 R
CONDITION: New
PRICE PAID: 1399 € (including bench)
DELIVERY CHARGE: Free
VENDOR LOCATION: Online
VENDOR NAME: Thomann.de
PURCHASE DATE: December 2011

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: PianoPeter73] #1809303
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MODEL: RD700NX
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PRICE PAID: 2290 EUR
DELIVERY CHARGE: Free
VENDOR LOCATION: Online (Germany)
VENDOR NAME: thomann.de
PURCHASE DATE: December 2011


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #1810955
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MAKE: Kawai
MODEL: CS6
CONDITION: New
PRICE PAID: 3800 USD including 8.5% tax
DELIVERY CHARGE: Included in selling price
VENDOR LOCATION: Berkeley, California
VENDOR NAME: DC Piano
PURCHASE DATE: DEC 2011

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #1812009
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for those of you in Canada Best Buy currently has the Casio px 130 with stand and pedal for $350 as part of their online boxing day sale

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Horwinkle] #1813059
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PRICE PAID: 2800 EUROS. 3200 EUROS if paid in up to 3 installments.
DELIVERY CHARGE: FREE
VENDOR LOCATION: Madrid
VENDOR NAME: Polimusica
PURCHASE DATE: 20 December 2011


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #1813681
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MAKE: Roland
MODEL: DP990F (Medium Cherry) + matching roland bench
CONDITION: New
PRICE PAID: 2299 AUS (which is better than the 3299 price tag that was still on the box!)
DELIVERY CHARGE: pick up so therefore $0
VENDOR LOCATION: Sydney CBD (postcode 2000)
VENDOR NAME: Allans Billy Hyde Music
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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #1813698
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USER LOCATION: Sheffield UK
MAKE: Casio Privia
MODEL: PX730
CONDITION:New
PRICE PAID: £479.00
DELIVERY CHARGE:Picked Up
VENDOR LOCATION:Sheffield UK
VENDOR NAME: Costco
PURCHASE DATE: 27/12/11
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Costco have just lowered the price from £599 to £479 inc VAT

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #1813799
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USER LOCATION: WALES, UK
MAKE: KAWAI
MODEL: CA63
CONDITION: NEW
PRICE PAID: £2,100 GBP (inc headphones & stand)
DELIVERY CHARGE: INCLUDED
VENDOR LOCATION: CARDIFF, WALES
VENDOR NAME: GARDNERS http://www.gardnerpianos.co.uk
PURCHASE DATE: 22nd Dec 2011 (& delivered 24th Dec 2011)

Absolutely haven't a clue about pianos but after reading good reviews about Kawais on here, decided on this over Yamaha CLP-440!


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MODEL: CL36
CONDITION: NEW
PRICE PAID: 919 EUR (incl. Klavierbank, Sennheiser Headphones und Notenbuch)
DELIVERY CHARGE: INCLUDED
VENDOR LOCATION: Online (GERMANY)
VENDOR NAME: http://www.bauer-music.de
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MODEL: RD-700NXC (= w/ RPU-3 pedal)
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PRICE PAID: $2,460 USD
DELIVERY CHARGE: Included
VENDOR LOCATION: Online
VENDOR NAME: RMC Audio Direct
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PRICE PAID: 2100 EUROS (inc headphones & bench)
DELIVERY CHARGE: FREE
VENDOR LOCATION: Madrid
VENDOR NAME: Polimusica
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PRICE PAID: $2,300 USD cash total
DELIVERY CHARGE: $0 - LOCAL PICKUP
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DELIVERY CHARGE: CHF 200 (incl. assembly)
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VENDOR NAME: Furrer Pro Musik
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VENDOR NAME: Cosmo Music
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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #1818970
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MODEL: P155
CONDITION: New
PRICE PAID: $900 (USD)
DELIVERY CHARGE: None
VENDOR LOCATION: Columbus, OH
VENDOR NAME: SamAsh
PURCHASE DATE: July, 2011

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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: dewster] #1819180
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Originally Posted by dewster
Just in time for the Holiday Excessive Spending & Gear Acquisition Activities!

I grabbed this entire thread and massaged it (search & replace, much hand editing) into an Excel 2003 Spreadsheet:

http://www.mediafire.com/?yhfuf78nnjwqcxx

I removed all hyphens and white space in the model numbers, then did a sort based on:

1) Make
2) Model
3) PW User Name

If anyone sees glaring errors in it please let me know and I'll fix it. (I've had the Excel sort function malfunction on me in the past and I've never really trusted it since.)

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You did a fantastic job, it would be really nice if someone spent the time to clean the numbers (in the price column) from all the $, (, - and other letters so that the list could be sorted by price or one could get averages and medians calculated. If this post was made as a form from the start where a user just feeds in text or numbers in preset fields with preset datatypes then it would have been very easy and maybe an online database would have been generated very easily form that. We still have the data but we need to do some work.

Again, great job.

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I've posted a spreadsheet on Google docs ...
Prices Paid

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
I've posted a spreadsheet on Google docs ...
Prices Paid


You did a GREAT JOB, I see that you did a cool job converting all currencies in the prices column to USD in an additional column, given that there are more than 600 entries in this spreadsheet I assume that you used a formula to do this. If so, do you have a copy where the original prices are recognized as just numbers?

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Thanks so much for sorting this information. It is very valuable to me!!


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